Dadfart802 t1_j8n0f6g wrote on February 15, 2023 at 2:44 PM

One thing that we never talk about is for housing to be built inexpensive, you need inexpensive labor and the SO MANY blue-collar people across the country that built this country are dead or addicted to opiates. The housing crisis and opiate crisis are inextricably linked. I want to scream when I hear, "no one wants to work anymore." It's not that no one wants to work anymore, but that a lot of them are dead or addicts.

KingKababa t1_j8nksu1 wrote on February 15, 2023 at 5:02 PM

We also spent the last 50 years villifying the trades and pushing 4 year college degrees on everyone to the exclusion of all else. It's no wonder we don't have any trades people anymore when society has been calling people dead end idiots for going to vocational/trade school for two generations now.

Dangerous_Mention_15 t1_j8o8gfm wrote on February 15, 2023 at 7:35 PM

>development

Other parts of America use recent immigrants for construction labor. As Trump famously described, from one of those "Mexican countries". There's legal immigration and there there is the having to cross 2+ countries (illegally) overland, then pay a coyote, then make it over the border, perhaps be forced into packing a load of dope at the same time, then 50+ miles hiking across the Tohono O'odham Nation, then evading further immigration checks... which kind of leads to an amazing selection process for a work ethic.

But Vermont's future doesn't seem to have lots of recent migrants from anywhere.

I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKcUOUYzDXA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKcUOUYzDXA