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[deleted] t1_j8nkaca wrote

100% agree with everything you just said, esp. about the VT Land Trust.

Breaks my heart what happened to the farmers and farming industry in this state, and the State should be doing A LOT MORE to support these new growth industries.

Fingers crossed for Newport too! Thank you for replying to me. :)

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joeydokes t1_j8nncyp wrote

and thanks for the convo! I can't speak to southern VT, or parts below #15 even FTM; despite having traipsed across the State to the point of knowing it blindfolded.

Farming and forestry is what makes VT special, what accounts for its pastoral beauty. VT does grass very well. Sadly the industries that use it are under stress, specially dairy; which started feeling the strain in late 80's early 90's with ops moving first to western NY, then later (with advent of reverse osmosis) to the southwest. Trying to compete with economies of scale elsewhere is a losing proposition.

Going organic, niche specialty dairy products, and the like helps to some degree but can't stem the trend of consolidation, which further erodes the prospect of more farmers via succession.

Thing is, if normal working class folk made a livable wage they could afford to buy produce/meat at those farmers' markets usually reserved for better off tourists and 2nd home owners. They could more directly support their neighbors; though I know that like me, many probably get their whole milk, eggs, beef even, from their neighbors operation.

But the elephant in the room is how little food security there is in Vermont despite being fertile and abundant. Not too different from how many kids would qualify as 1st gen to go to college.

They/it has not been a top priority, despite the bounty of advocates calling it out.

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[deleted] t1_j8nqgu3 wrote

I am so grateful you took the time to write all of that out. Hopefully you will bring some awareness to how our farming industry / food security crisis stems from the same problems that are causing our housing crisis: Impossible to fix either one independently from the other. Good on you!

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joeydokes t1_j8nrpbk wrote

Appreciate your kind words!

I don't know if its any different now than back in the 90's, but there is/was some degree of entrenchment at work.

In the case of Ag, it was those in position at the Farm Bureau, Coop extension and the State, whose focus was so narrow that they could not think outside the box. Granted, their constituency was probably the most anti-change, 'aint broke, don't fix' group to walk/work the earth. Understandably so, considering how little is actually in their perview of control.

Just pressing for things like crop rotation, low-till no-till, ... was a herculean task! So, advocates could only really push for what their audience was ready to hear.

These days, minds are much more open I suspect.

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[deleted] t1_j8nule4 wrote

"These days, minds are much more open I suspect."

I sure hope that you are right. Even if they are, there still needs to be a lot more education on the topic(s), and hopefully these conversations today helped in that regard.

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