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lantonas OP t1_ja59dfr wrote

Reply to comment by ArkeryStarkery in Despite Criticism, Judge Jiron Likely To Be Retained by lantonas

He's saying that we aren't used to catch and release methods that he learned from Chittenden County, working as Sarah George's chief deputy state's attorney.

For example, the state wanted Shawn Rich held without bail after he was arrested as a suspect in a murder with three active arrest warrants. His criminal record of criminal record includes nine failures to appear, six convictions for violating court orders, 11 felony convictions, 37 misdemeanor convictions, four assaulting crime convictions, 29 parole violations and 11 violations of probation.

He was released on $300 bail.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_ja5x7mp wrote

If you don’t want to be seen as a troll, your best bet is to lay out your ideas for bail, and then either square those with constitutional law or admit your hurdles. Otherwise how do we prevent not-guilty people from rotting in jail for a year or two before their trials?

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SirAidandRinglocks t1_ja8od6y wrote

Seems like with a history like this guys maybe some common sense could be involved...

Violate probation... Maybe you get detained. Multiple convictions get detained.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_ja8rlw9 wrote

To my lay ears that sounds like imposing a “prior bad acts” factor on bail- again, unconstitutional as it stands. The right to a speedy trial stands in far greater esteem compared to a nebulous ‘presumption of guilt.’

You should be aware that Common Sense Fallacy is a thing and your best bet is explaining how it would work rather than implying it’s too simple and easy to explain.

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