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[deleted] t1_j8ow2xf wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Northfield's Police Chief Takes Flak for His Provocative Public Stances by BudsKind802

Damn dude, you post more about trans stuff than I do and I’m actually trans lmfao

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[deleted] t1_j8ownig wrote

That's what I do if I can't come up with a coherent response. Stalk someones profile!

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[deleted] t1_j8oy31r wrote

Nah, I saw multiple comments by you in this thread and was curious what the hell you were on about. How many hours have you poured into being this?

It’s a bullshit argument. What exactly do you think is going on? Tons of opportunistic little boys wanting to flip their dicks out in girls locker rooms are pretending to be girls? Do you understand how fucking terrible it is to be trans? But yeah people are pretending so they can reap all the benefits lmao.

What are you protecting anyone from by pushing this ignorant garbage? It’s a complex issue for sure and part of me is glad as fuck I stayed closeted as long as I did. The way this “argument” is always framed comes from some imaginary place, there’s no basis to this shit in reality.

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[deleted] t1_j8oyq5q wrote

> Do you understand how fucking terrible it is to be trans? But yeah people are pretending so they can reap all the benefits lmao.

This has literally nothing to do with anything I said.

For the modern history of the USA we have had male/female sports and male/female changing rooms. We even have male/female summer camps... It isn't always about sexual predation, sometimes it's just you don't want 17 year old boys and girls butt naked showering together at a public school.

Why do we have male/female sports? In order to allow women to show their athletic talent and compete safely even in the face of male genetic advantage.

It is just factually true that there is a competitive and safety based reason we have male/female sports.

In no way am I advocating hurting or causing any disadvantage to trans people. The fact that you immediately jump to that angle and try to make it seem like I'm advocating genocide just highlights the weakness of your points.

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[deleted] t1_j8p11s5 wrote

It has everything to do with it. On a basic level you don’t accept or trust trans people so we must keep them segregated. Boys with boys and girls with girls, unless they’re trans. Why is there never mention of trans boys in the boys locker room?

Lmao, come on. 90% of your comments are bullshit opinions on trans issues, but yeah I’m sure you’re one hell of an ally. You’re spending large amounts of your time to spread ignorant trash. Genocide? Yeah, having issues with the way you’re approaching this means I think you’re calling for genocide. Not quite, but you do come off as a bit of a douche ahah

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[deleted] t1_j8rk60f wrote

> On a basic level you don’t accept or trust trans people so we must keep them segregated.

Not at all what I said. I simply believe there are legitimate reasons behind female only changing rooms and female only sports.

You can't come up with a coherent response so you just attack me.

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[deleted] t1_j8rm2ma wrote

Lol keep playing the victim

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[deleted] t1_j8rxeeq wrote

In no way am I a victim. I'm just pointing out that instead of responding to what I said you spent two paragraphs mischaracterizing what I said or attacking other comments I made.

It is what happens when someone sees your point and can't come up with a good response.

Again, none of my points are based around the idea of not accepting or trusting trans people. I just believe that we have valued exclusive male/female spaces for hundreds of years and if we want to abolish that we should be able to have a reasonable discussion about the pros and cons.

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[deleted] t1_j8rxpk0 wrote

You haven’t responded to half of what I’ve written dude. This “I’m just trying to have a conversation” bullshit is exhausting. GLHF

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[deleted] t1_j8s5tlr wrote

> This “I’m just trying to have a conversation” bullshit is exhausting. GLHF

Your previous comment was just "lol keep playing the victim" and you literally do not respond to any point I made. Hypocritical.

You are the one who has tried to insult in literally every single comment you made. My point is that people have real concerns about the abolition of female only spaces and should be able to have a dicussion without people like you just attacking them.

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[deleted] t1_j8s6rs8 wrote

“The abolition of female only spaces”

Lmao this is the problem and yet you fail to see how fucking shit this take is. You’ve already made up your mind and continue to repeat the same ignorant points.

Please, find some more threads to rehash the same trash arguments and receive the same responses. You’ve pushed this shit and the “sanctity of women’s sports” nonstop on this account, and when you don’t get support you just repeat it somewhere else. What a waste of fucking time. This shit is no different than the white dude explaining racism or the man explaining why women don’t face real issues. Have fun wasting your time, this is pathetic.

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[deleted] t1_j8s8y9a wrote

Ok do you support the abolition of female only spaces?

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[deleted] t1_j8s9rsn wrote

Yes, of course. We should actually kill all cis women. This is the goal of the trans after all.

Get real dude, no one is trying to get rid of women’s spaces. You’re making up a bogey man and pushing it like it’s fact. There’s no substance to your arguments, just “oh no there’s men in the girls locker rooms!”. Do you support trans boys in women’s spaces? Do you support trans boys in women’s sports? Do you expect a young trans girl to participate in male sports? Do you actually care about children or just some of them when it’s convenient?

I’m done responding to this shit, it’s already been a huge waste of time lmao.

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[deleted] t1_j8t52rj wrote

See my point stands because you literally refuse to answer a very basic question without making ridiculous jokes.

You literally cannot just respond... everything involves a word salad trying to wiggle out of answering.

Are there any situations where it is ok to have female only spaces or should males be allowed in if they want to?

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_j8p8xl4 wrote

I’ve read this thread. You raise some reasonable and valid points. I disagree with your general stance in that I don’t believe this is an instance where a boy was taking advantage of the rule where he can use the locker room of the gender she identifies as.

If I thought was the case I would have a different opinion. If I thought someone was taking advantage of that policy to see a boob I would say that is an issue that needs to be addressed regardless of how they identify.

I don’t really care if you are concern trolling or whatever it was called. You asked for a good faith engagement, I hope my response offered one.

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[deleted] t1_j8rjyi0 wrote

> I disagree with your general stance in that I don’t believe this is an instance where a boy was taking advantage of the rule where he can use the locker room of the gender she identifies as.

I don't think that is what was happening here either, that is why I kept my points general. In this specific case I agree with the criticism of the police officer: cops can have opinions but it is in bad taste to air them publicly.

I think we get too caught up in specific instances. We have to ask ourselves "is the concept of female only changing areas a hateful, bigoted idea or is it based out of legitimate concerns?"

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_j8romth wrote

>is the concept of female only changing areas a hateful, bigoted idea or is it based out of legitimate concerns?

And the answer is "it depends"

Reddit is not good at nuance.

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