Just gotta chain up.

Fuel companies know to put good tires on their vehicles.

National companies? Not so much. *Cries in driver for national company

They also have those bad ass automatic chains.

“If we don’t get heat to the people you can bet the electric company will!”

One of our drivers bought a set but it wouldn't come off afterward. Oops.

Always grateful for our propane people, ours even brought up our trash can today.

I almost took a picture of a fuel oil delivery driver in full cowboy gear. Hat and everything.

Taste the meat not the heat

Mine has to do a 78 point turn around to get in my driveway and he doesn’t even care!

My propane guy's tanker truck has chains with rectangular spiked brackets spanning the dualies.

"Whoa, I've never seen that before."

"Yeah, I made them myself."

I've lived here a long time, and I love this state more every year.

Is there a more overused phrase than "only in Vermont" for things that aren't that uncommon elsewhere?

Automatic chains are great for keeping moving. Stopped? You’re fcked.

Dang nicest ODR I’ve seen this “winter”

Flat, liquid water and lots of texture, what's the problem here. Looks good to go.

Yup, and useless backing up.

Most states don’t even know what bad-ass actually is.

True and/but I bet they do the same in other states haha

Not my guy

... Not in Texas they won't.

Ha! Propane truck got stuck in my driveway for 2 hours the week before last. His front tire dropped over the snowbank on a turn and that was it, until a huge-ass tow truck pulled him out.

In my experience they say things like that a lot more here.

yeah like when people say "if you don't like the weather in _________ just wait 5 minutes!"

people say that everywhere. Your weather is probably not that much quirkier than anywhere else

Here in TX they just shut the whole state down till it melts. Such a joke.

Good on the driver, but kind of a dick move on the part of whoever is responsible for maintaining this chunk of road though. A little bit of sand goes a long way.

That stuff is nasty for every thing tough on delivery trucks and ice takes power lines down and crews have trouble getting there to put them up God I love my wood put up a year ahead

"And he doesn't even quit on the spot*" FTFY lol

It's quirkier than anywhere near the coast, that's for sure.

F

Happens in Wyoming too!

Milk trucks, too. Gotta pick up every day in all weather from awkward barnyards on back roads.

That kind of is nothing....It's frozen over but is textured so grip won't be an issue unless your tires are shit, and also it's a heating company in Northern NE. It's a requirement to make it to your customers no matter the condition if you wan to be competitive in this market.

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Honestly, I don't get peoples fascination with posting a bad road or weather. If you've been here for any period of time you've been there and done that when it comes to roads like this. Save these posts for your facebook so your friends back home can see how you're ruffing it now Posting here it just looks needy for upvotes. Sorry if I offend, but oh well it's been a long day.

Go get a job working for your local town, or better yet just show up and tell them how to do their job. Should they have put sand down when it’s 40 degrees and there’s water running off the road? Idk about you but I don’t like seeing my tax money running in the ditch.

Correct. The part that’s on the hill is in the sun and is sanded. This flat part that runs through the woods that’s a waste of good sand.

There’s literally a 12 foot wall of snow (that won’t melt) in front the path to my tank from the plow guy so I haven’t figured out what he’s going to do there.

Here in VA they don't treat unless politicians get stuck on the highway from two inches of snow.

r/agedlikemilk

why is that a joke? it so infrequently snows there it'd be a joke and a waste of money for every municipality to spend tons of money on snow removal equipment

Our oil guy was delivering very early this morning. He was delivering to houses on dirt roads before they warm up and become pretty much impassable. Mud season is great unless you need to leave the house!

I disagree. I carried mail in Ohio 40 rears and did that.

Of course not, he's getting paid by the hour, not the delivery. I always took my time and drove extra careful when I was on the clock. That's the driver's insurance getting surcharged, not the boss', if there's an infraction tagged on their license.

Plus a lot of us are just plain proud of being able to stuff with big trucks in small spaces and want to show off from time to time.

That was the weirdest thing about driving a semi truck, I delivered to a lot of construction sites, and many times you'd see another big truck just sunk up to the doors, you'd get out to walk around and see how soft the ground was, and it would feel like concrete, just rock hard. But for heavy heavy trucks, they can get so very stuck in what seams like a perfectly good road, hah. Enough to make you paranoid...

Just make a furnace that runs on milk, problem solved!

Dude, they've got no other ideas. Therefore, that's the plan. lol

Do not miss TX/OK area.

Yeah propane drivers would never do that in Maine or NH so everyone just freezes all winter

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You're not getting a clear road on dirt in VT in winter. Trying to do that is just a futile endeavor. I've learned to dress my car for the weather (to strain the metaphor): studded tires, AWD car. It comes with the territory (literally).

This is the tradeoff. If you want paved roads clear of ice, move to a city. The dirt road and the weather just DGAF.

They grew up in the city, and they're still getting used to it.

Or they're reminding themselves that this is my life now and laughing.

Or reminding themselves that some people freak out when they see this because they grew up where there are paved roads and/or no snow/ice.

Just another winter day on r/Vermont, don't let it bother you. :)

Same. Nothing like knowing you've got a pile of heat for your house, just insert in the metal box and add flame. :)

We could use you back.

it has worked for me for over 40 years

I only said something because I live on a dirt road and have a very long dirt driveway. I’ve the years I’ve learned that if my driveway starts to look like the picture, all it takes is a dusting of snow to turn it into a nightmare. A little bit of sand will rough up the surface enough that there’s still traction available.

The state has a 20 Billion dollar surplus. The revenue that along is lost would more than make up for some plows and sanding equipment. But this state uses the excuse, well it doesn’t happen here enough. Just like we won’t build any new power plants, but we keep expanding and build more and more. Good luck this summer. My Generac is set to go. I’ll lose power for a whole 30 seconds till that diesel fires over. Not staying in this state, Vermont will be my home in the next 5 years.

Ha ha, yeah our lack of simple services in this country is sad.

Ha ha, can’t argue with that.

My family was in the feed business for many years, grain and milk trucks will go anywhere.

In southern new england propane drivers would freak out and say they cant deliver. It seems to have happened a couple times in my life.

Oh, totally agreed. Having the sand truck is part of the deal. On our town's roads (mostly gravel), the crews do a great job and I have total confidence that they're on it.

In your own driveway, you need that sand, too.

Tried and true.

I’m always amazed at how our guy backs his truck up our long winding driveway

"texas has a $20 billion surplus and should spend that money on the least of their concerns" is a take you could only find on reddit

I guess you don’t like to have your lights stay on. You just sit back and enjoy that afternoon sun the summer when your AC has no power, lol

what does that have to do with texas winters

Winter Freeze 2021 4 million people no power over 700 people died. Can fix stupid

but we're talking about snow removal equipment

I used to work as a delivery driver for a propane company. Ice is no problem. Tire chains made from hardened steel with V-grips welded to the chains will get you over any ice. What IS a problem is thick hard-packed snow. If you don't ever plow your driveway and just keep driving over it and tramping the snow down, that's fine for a car. However, a truck loaded with five tons of propane will push through the packed snow and will get bogged down. It doesn't help that the packed part is always the width of a car, not of a propane truck. If you want to be sure you can get propane or oil delivered all winter, keep your driveway plowed, and plowed nice and wide.

Native Texan here. We never had grid issues here until about 2015. That February storm was freakishly cold for Texas . It just doesn't hit -5 here. Couple that with power plants built to stay cool in 105 degree heat and a state that thinks "regulation" is a four letter word and an influx of migrants from everywhere else's in Country and, yeah, things got sideways.

Still so excited me and.ny wife have accepted jobs in Vermont! Personally, I am done with the heat. I enjoy the cold. Im not to keen on paying for it. I see there are some high performance heat pumps on the market now. I wonder what kind of high efficiency boiler solutions there are.