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Twombls t1_jeexchp wrote

That is why we undo the capitalism

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Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_jef0shg wrote

It would be so awesome if there were a viable replacement.

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halfbakedblake t1_jeflvtz wrote

I believe some socialism seems to work fine.

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smokeythemechanic t1_jeg5dlt wrote

In what sense? It doesn't make anything more affordable or less expensive. It just means the government controls it, and having seen so many of our government programs even just the PPP program monumentally fail for the people it was supposed to help, how well do you think the nepotism of all our current or past 50 years democrat and republican government officials would do a massive government funded anything?

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halfbakedblake t1_jeg5xas wrote

Happiness and quality of life is the metric I was using.

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smokeythemechanic t1_jeg99at wrote

I think you are forgetting all the government forced taxes and fees for everything in those countries, you want to try to survive on 45% of what you earn? That doesn't make me very happy.

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halfbakedblake t1_jeg9ou3 wrote

Well, thank you for explaining to me, you sure ranted at me and taught me.... That you don't pay attention to the words and you are just spouting shit that gives nothing to the conversation. Here's your big reddit win. You got me, shit. How dare I measure a country by how happy people are.

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smokeythemechanic t1_jegangi wrote

I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was inferring that the grass just looks greener on the other side, no matter what form of government you have, it has the key feature of humans, which are always prone to corruption, self enrichment, and the elite helping the elite. You're welcome to think whatever you want obviously.

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halfbakedblake t1_jegbb9t wrote

I really hate that I assume people are assholes on reddit. It is my usual experience and I apologize, but you didn't respond to what I was saying, you just started talking about taxes after I said I'm measuring by happiness. Also we pay up to %37 in taxes. I know I lose about 1/3 of my money to taxes. So instead of 3 paychecks going to the government wed lose 5. Not that big a jump for the benefits.

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smokeythemechanic t1_jegc9dd wrote

I guess I don't see the added benefits just added cost to pay for those that don't pay for themselves anyway. And the reason I replied as to a measure of happiness with money, is I am just able to afford to be happy here now after lots of hard ass work, where the people I know from Europe have considerably less spare money, and considerably less assets for doing basically the same shit we do here for fun. The other thing is getting shaken down for every individual thing they can possibly hit you for, even just the euro MOT inspection for your average car would completely break most Americans as every inch of the car has to be 100% perfect.

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halfbakedblake t1_jegcxnu wrote

I am not unhappy here, but as you relate to the world through your lens I do mine. I was injured and out of work for 2 years. Medical debt is no joke and the debt that comes with illness is terrible. I'm scared shitless to age here.

Happiness to me is different than for you, but all governments are fucked and this may be a case of the grass being greener, but accidents and life happen.

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smokeythemechanic t1_jegf7ou wrote

Yeah I for sure hear you there, I honestly our medical systems are so broken we as a country do need to start at square one there. Like Drs have to be held accountable for what they say, do, and prescribe, also health administration should make less than anyone working the floor. But then again that's my sentiment about all technical jobs that require a decade of study to master.

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