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Kink4202 t1_jcc5ykw wrote

Wow, the responses on here are awful. You have no idea if there are physical reasons why they can't shovel, or snow blow. Maybe that's why they have someone to plow it for them. Have some compassion my fellow Vermonters.

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Jazzhandsfolkfeet OP t1_jcc7631 wrote

Thank you. If only I could afford an ATV with a snow plow attachment and a snow blower or have a career that allows me the time off to spend hours shoveling 3 ft of snow off a 200 foot driveway. The lack of compassion here is stunning. God forbid that someone’s Plan A and Plan B falls through and they try to use a community to come up with a viable Plan C.

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SchmeddyBallz t1_jcc8ksb wrote

I think most people are just taken aback by the idea that not having someone to plow your driveway is such an emergency. Unless you are elderly or disabled of course.

Most people are used to dealing with snow...not trying to make you feel bad.

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PeteDontCare t1_jcd27sc wrote

I shovel my own driveway, but your declaration that most don't have someone plow their driveway is absolutely bullshit

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SchmeddyBallz t1_jcdftjn wrote

I never said most people outsource plowing. I said most people are used to dealing with snow.

What I was implying was that without someone to plow, most people would decide to shovel themselves in an emergency.

You're reading into what I said incorrectly.

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jarvisk2 t1_jcccfdx wrote

THIS. most people do not get their driveways plowed for them. unless you're disabled you'd better start shoveling.

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Sudden_Dragonfly2638 t1_jcda526 wrote

If I was closer I would've happily come and plowed you out, but c'mon ma, you definitely didn't get 3 ft. I'm at a high elevation much farther south and barely got 18 inches.

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kraysys t1_jccc8vn wrote

Your job requires you work 18 hours a day every day?

I'm not trying to be heartless, but I'm sure you can find the time to take a couple hours in the morning or evening.

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Jazzhandsfolkfeet OP t1_jcccm6m wrote

I’m a tax accountant so 16 hours, yes.

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jarvisk2 t1_jcce38h wrote

why am i having a hard time believing that a guy who has been on reddit for over an hour with an 8 month old baby doesn't actually work 16 hour days...

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kraysys t1_jccd2wd wrote

Man, 80+ hour weeks? Surely if you're putting in those hours they're compensating you well enough to be able to save and purchase a used snow blower.

It'll suck, but get a couple less hours of sleep tonight than usual and shovel out. I have many fond memories of shoveling out with my dad in the dark with some terrible headlamps after he finished up with work (too bad your 8-month-old can't yet help out lol)

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raptor3x t1_jcdjx92 wrote

80 hours a week during tax season for a tax accountant doesn't sound unreasonable at all.

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kraysys t1_jcdku5j wrote

Sure, but it’s a job that can provide the savings to purchase a used snow blower, is my point. In another comment OP was complaining about working a low paying job that didn’t make that possible.

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Chance_Phone4013 t1_jccuzb0 wrote

My guy, this exact scenario happened to my wife and i last year. Long ass driveway, heavy ass snow storm, shitty ass plow driver didn't show up. We put our big boy pants on and dug a 5ft ×200ft path to the road. It took a few hours, it sucked and we were sore after but we got it done.

My wife works in a tax office. Long hours this time of year for sure. But don't tell me you can't afford an ATV with a plow. We bought one this year and she isn't even an accountant....

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Chance_Phone4013 t1_jceti75 wrote

We bought a used one for $2000 from FB market. It's a total game changer. It takes me 15 min to plow my 200ft driveway in regular snow and a half hour for this deep heavy crap..

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gortexcondom t1_jcd6leb wrote

Another comment you were complaining you don’t have a good enough job to afford a snowblower. An accountant working 16 hours a day should be doing just fine…

Before I was on the team of people that was confused to why everyone was being so harsh on you. Now I’m starting to think yeah, maybe you should be bullied a little bit.

Get to shoveling.

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Jazzhandsfolkfeet OP t1_jccd2v7 wrote

Also, it took 2 hours this morning to shovel our deck, front walkway, and path to the propane tank. The driveway would take at least 4x that.

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Psychological_Rip_44 t1_jcd87ce wrote

Not trying to be a dick but I would look for a better snow shovel. I shovel a lot at work and a nice shovel is twice as fast if not more. They’re a bit pricey but worth it for sure.

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haruspex t1_jcdcgxz wrote

What's your favorite? I have a classic metal shovel and generally am happy but it's getting long in the tooth and I'm always open to improvements.

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Psychological_Rip_44 t1_jcdczlq wrote

Plow style or the high leverage with a bend in the handle are nice but the black or green solid hard plastic are my favorite when you can’t use thoselike these

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Psychological_Rip_44 t1_jcddoh4 wrote

I try and get it before it’s walked on but a flat head shovel is the best for hard snow

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greenmountaintop t1_jcc8a4s wrote

I agree. We got three feet and our plow guy had heart surgery. It is so thick and our driveway so long that a back up plow got stuck for over an hour. A shovel is a joke right now. Show some compassion people!

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lantonas t1_jccp7a2 wrote

So what good is a snow plow if it is going to get stuck?

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Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_jccazqr wrote

Maybe it's time to make a backup plan. Adults need to be resourceul.

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Jazzhandsfolkfeet OP t1_jccc1dw wrote

I did. A family member has a personal plow truck but they are in FL at the moment and they live 1 hour away so I can’t walk or find a ride. Now I’m on Plan C, which involves calling as many people as possible and posting for leads.

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JankyIngenue t1_jcccvl9 wrote

Wonder how much of your driveway would be clear if you just spent that time shoveling…

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Beardly_Smith t1_jcccvap wrote

Doing it yourself should come before begging strangers to do it for you

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codeQueen t1_jcd59qr wrote

A backup plan should exclude relying on someone else. A good backup plan would be a snowblower. Save up some money and buy a used one.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jcc7uc0 wrote

It's funny, I had wanted to move to Vermont until I read this sub. Vermonters are absolutely awful if this place is any indication, and this is from a Long Islander. Think they need to revisit for the rudest state.

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SubversiveIntentions t1_jcc926m wrote

Agreed reddit attracts the folks with the loudest voices but doesn't necessarily represent a place. I've met all sorts in Vermont, but generally folks here lean much longer than the rest of NE.

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whatsupbudbud t1_jccn3uy wrote

This is the Vermont version of Twitter. It's where people come to bitch and be NIMBYs about their subreddit while they complain about them.

Most of Vermont is not on r/Vermont and will go way out of their way to help people in need.

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mugsimo t1_jccw6tn wrote

FPF and Facebook are much nicer if you need help from neighbors.

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JankyIngenue t1_jcccjp5 wrote

Glad to hear you no longer want to move to our state, why you here then?

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ResponsibleExcuse727 t1_jccnook wrote

It’s just that we all have to do shitty things some times we don’t want to do. There’s a long list of driveways needed to be plowed and it would just be smarter and more efficient to do it yourself at this point. It’s a tax of living here.

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RiddleofSteel t1_jcft31b wrote

Totally get it, but on the Long Island sub for instance if someone asked for help like this you'd get one jerk response and mostly helpful. Seems the opposite here.

Also seems like anytime I've asked about places to bring my family on vacation in Vermont or made the mistake of asking about a place to move there I got all nasty responses. Just reeks of xenophobia and small mindedness and to be honest it's disappointing because I always saw Vermont as the friendlier and more open minded version of New Hampshire. Instead you guys come off like a bunch of angry southern rednecks who think you are your own country.

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ResponsibleExcuse727 t1_jcfudoi wrote

Well, yeah it’s Vermont. Less diverse 2nd smallest population. What do you expect. Bunch of townies

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ResponsibleExcuse727 t1_jcg136t wrote

Also the xenophobia is a little warranted. Vermont is becoming a place everyone wants to move to with not many houses. Creating bidding wars on homes paying 200-300k over appraisal value. Forces reappraisals and eventually raises everyone’s property taxes. It’s kind of just how the world works these days but as a townie Vermonter you can kind of understand where they’re coming from.

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endeavour3d t1_jchk07w wrote

I can assure you the majority of dickbags that post here only say shit like this because they can get away with it, I've had neighbors help with my snowed in driveway many times completely unsolicited, people are generally friendly and helpful here, one post on Front Porch Forum will get a ton of helpful responses immediately from my experiences.

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Threadbare70 t1_jcjtf01 wrote

This sub is one of the most vile & repulsive aspects of an otherwise nice place to live.

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