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Significant_Guava881 t1_jcjp322 wrote

Reply to comment by Smeedge_Kilgannon in Vt. Community Confronts Little Sprouts CEO David Post Over 30% Tuition Hike at 3/15 and 3/16 Virtual Meetings by ChildCearPlz

Really? I question this trickle down argument. Babilou has acquired seven companies, operates in 12 countries, is expanding into India, and the avg childcare salary in Vermont is less than $23k. The argument you share is the same that the oil companies have touted this year despite making record profits. Also if it were the case as you've stated it, surely the Rep in this interview could have articulated as such instead of dodging questions.

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_jcjtk9b wrote

Or maybe the rep doesn’t care. He represents a multinational child care company in a state with a severe childcare shortage. I looked and tuition now is under $5 an hour. Are you honestly saying all it is worth is $5 an hour to raise a child 40 hours per week.

Let me rephrase it. How much do you think is a reasonable about per child to charge for daycare? How much do you think is a reasonable number of children per person to watch at a daycare? How much do you think is an acceptable salary for a person watching said children? How much investment back into facilities on an annual basis is appropriate for a day care?

When times are tough and everyone is hurting, is the place you want to pinch pennies really the person with a large amount of influence over your child’s early development?

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somedudevt t1_jcjtlm7 wrote

The average childcare worker is making $2.50 under minimum wage? Find that hard to believe. The issue is regulation and parents. 30 years ago daycare was some lady in a trailer watching 10-15 kids. Her job was to feed them and make sure they didn’t die. When I was in daycare we would be outside most of the day unsupervised making forts and climbing trees, going sledding and having snowball fights (and occasionally fist fights).

They didn’t limit the number of kids someone could watch, and they didn’t expect that person to have a phd. I learned nothing from daycare other than being socialized to being around other kids. Kids are being coddled and society has become full of parents who if their kid gets a scratch are ready to sue over it. I still have scars from fun gone awry at daycare, but that was part of growing up.

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Thick_Piece t1_jcjuoeu wrote

The child care costs $5 per hour.

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mochiko_noriko t1_jcjvqsx wrote

I paid $200/week over ten years ago ($5/hr x40 hrs) and I haven't seen a rate below $300/wk in the last year. Do you have a link to support this stat?

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Thick_Piece t1_jcjwc12 wrote

I am talking about what the person said above. He was saying $5 per hour for the care of the child, not $5 per hour for the employee. I am not referencing anything but what the person wrote.

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somedudevt t1_jcm0ksx wrote

What the fuck does the per child cost have to do with the price of tea in China? A CCP can have like 8 kids per adult + 4 school age when on breaks that’s 60k-100k a year gross. It’s not great but for a home provider who can then write off their mortgage, furniture, car, etc as a business expense it’s not small either. If we reduce regulations so that average people could do that without needing special licensing there would be more capacity.

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Thick_Piece t1_jcs5gkp wrote

I am not 100% following your thought process.

I do agree that childcare in Vermont is over regulated. In my opinion it is the primary factor.

The laws put forth by our politicians closed many options AND took classrooms away from elementary schools which in turn is forcing many towns to put forth bonds in order to build more classrooms. In essence, childcare went up in pricing, taxes in the form of a bond for expansion went up, and taxes for the yearly budget went up.

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