arlowner t1_jcjubyv wrote
Reply to comment by Nutmegdog1959 in Former SVC campus in Bennington being sold for destination resort. by SVTer
The Vermont Library Association has been explaining to all of them, in various ways, over the last three months that colleges/students/everybody needs libraries and they are blindly believing they can more affordability offer library materials through contract services available online. No physical books for our students- they are too archaic! ( that’s an attempt at sarcasm btw). Imho this is not forward thinking though because contracts for library materials are very expensive and get more expensive as you grow and want more access to materials. Not to mention- if you don’t have library staff- who will help navigate this very clunky databases? It’s very shortsighted on the side of those in charge.
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jckhtvr wrote
i live in vt and i went to college in vt and i have never used a library even on campus for anything other than their printers so i believe this statement is wrong. rather than funding libraries, why cant we use online literature databases?
its not like you can check out your college textbooks and highschools give books to their students.
arlowner t1_jcklq6r wrote
What did you get your degree in?
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jckp4yf wrote
engineering
i believe there are digital libraries where all documents/books could be available to the public (and more than possible in person) for cheaper and easier public access, am i wrong?
Nutmegdog1959 t1_jckxsbj wrote
Engineering? Really?
Are all engineering publications FREE online? How about engineering software, also FREE?
You are incredibly naive about education to think that everything online is free and no licenses are required.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jclt086 wrote
none of my comp sci physical books were free, either
thank god for LibGen tho lol
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jclbw6j wrote
lmao i had to buy my books f9r class i said i didnt use the library once they dont s5ock engineering books
i didnt once say free i said a pay service
if u think kibraries have engineering siftware u r crazy and actusly engineering sweets r free for personal use and or inckuded in tuition
arlowner t1_jcl5hfm wrote
Yeah, you are wrong. I suggest you call a real librarian, maybe at the state or uvm, and ask them how much a contract is for a year for an average library database - examples jstore or Lexus nexus. In my knowledge they can range from 1,000 to 100000 annually. Then ask them how much is available for journal archives in the subscription contract. Because sometimes that costs more. Then ask them how many databases they have for a comprehensive digital collection.
A few years ago I heard a statistic- something like only 25% of the world’s information is available online. That’s a small world if your limiting yourself to just that. Oh and do you want to talk about lack of reliable internet services, especially here in Vermont? Libraries are great for their printers but behind the scenes they do more than you can even image. Go visit one sometime. Librarians love to show them off.
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jcld4mw wrote
i got cable from dsl this year so they r working on it
those numbers you gave me for a digital library r cheeper than the cost to maintain the states libraries
bonanzapineapple t1_jcmy6y1 wrote
Not everyone in VT has reliable internet access. You'd be surprised how much literature has not been digitized.
If it matters, I graduated from college in 2021 (tho not in VT)
Cobdain t1_jcmlh9p wrote
Power is out, I want to read a book… oh shit forgot all books are better suited to be online only now. 😄 I do understand what you are saying though. Issue is you are one person with one opinion, lots of people appreciate libraries! Also the books are already paid for, they aren’t going to make much IF any money selling them. It’s stupid, and dangerous to dispose of books.
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jcmsrof wrote
thats not even what i mean obviously if u have no libraries u will still have entertainment books. power goes out alot at my mountain house and i keep gameboys. im not saying books r bad what im saying is library infrustructure is expensive and rarely used. i havent been to a library in like 10 years.
vexing_witchqueen t1_jcmcmue wrote
I don’t know, I got a physics degree and I used the library constantly. Maybe engineering is a basic degree that you can get in exchange for some homework problems, but most majors involve research and a physical library is essential for that
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jcnf0zo wrote
lmao u r something
you are right, no one with a physics degree has ever graduated without using a physical library
PsychologicalEar0 t1_jcner54 wrote
lmao well arnt you pretentious.
i bet noone has ever gotten a physics degree without going into a library my bad
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