Bernthewalldown t1_jck35qa wrote
“Why are all the young leaving” is said with the same breath as “let’s destroy the college system”. The deterioration of Vermont for Vermonters continues.
Klashus t1_jcllnlc wrote
They want everyone to leave. Best way to turn it into vacation land.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_jcvbeay wrote
Young people are leaving blc the pay here is a joke and a condo in williston now costs $400k. They'd be stupid to stay, VT's future is pretty bleak.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jclth4r wrote
young people are leaving AFTER college
graduated uvm in 2021. I know 1 (one) couple who is still here, and they're moving in the next few months
colleges leaving sucks but it's not why young people leave (or at least, not a major, top 5 reason they leave)
jarvisk2 t1_jclwryz wrote
i would disagree. happy that you were able to afford UVM, but once i graduated hs in VT i had to move out of state to afford college.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jcn6gu6 wrote
uvm was my cheapest school lol that's why I went there. 24k in debt total, paid 7k/year up front. definitely not nothing! but not particularly unaffordable, and there's plenty of places more affordable in-state that you could have chosen to go to. I am glad you found somewhere that works for you, but don't pretend that's a choice you were forced into. hell, college fucking sucks and I wish I didn't go at all! maybe one of our many trade schools would've been better!
the real reason people leave is because housing fucking sucks here. it's a problem everywhere, but it's particularly bad here.
jarvisk2 t1_jcnajy4 wrote
it is absolutely a choice i was forced into. i had no help with college and no one to willing to co-sign a loan. vermont colleges were too expensive for me and my sisters. i had to move to a southern state, wait a year for residency, and get a college degree there. i was PAID a couple thousand dollars to get my degree with my 4.0 GPA instead of going into debt. not everyone can afford $7,000~ a year. yes, i agree housing is awful here, but vermont colleges have way more expensive in-state tuition in comparison to other states. please don't belittle my experience.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jcneovb wrote
> please don't belittle my experience.
I never belittled anyone - sorry if my words came across that way, it was not my intent
> not everyone can afford $7,000~ a year.
I mean, if you spent a year at home working (rather than in the south) and worked during the summers, you easily could have afforded 7k/year, same as me... it's not cheap, yeah, but it's within reach for anyone who doesn't have dependants and can live at home (or other cheap housing) for a year.
moreover, uvm isn't the cheapest school in the state, anyway. kind of irrelevant how much it costs. "I can't go to school in Massachusetts because Boston University is too expensive!" there are other options in the state for less
this is not to say you made the wrong decision or anything like that! but if someone wants to go to school in-state, it's easily achievable for almost everyone (again, besides those with dependents and who cannot rely on their parents for housing while in school).
meanwhile, buying property is completely out of reach unless you make 80k a year and can live at home/very cheap housing for 2-4 years to save up for a house. one is a far larger issue for young people in general.
jarvisk2 t1_jcnh7pc wrote
you're clearly set in your opinion, but like i said -- for those without any parental support college is unaffordable in this state.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jcnhiy7 wrote
maybe uvm is, there's plenty of other places to go to school though...
jarvisk2 t1_jcns776 wrote
listen, i attended ccv for a year i know what it costs.
KITTYONFYRE t1_jcopk6k wrote
damn this person knows what 2 colleges in the state cost per year, wrap it up, we’re done here.
tossawayintheend t1_jcozili wrote
Isn't it free for people with household income under $75k?
jarvisk2 t1_jcqtz4u wrote
what somebody's parents make for money shouldn't have anything to do with how much college costs. i guess i'm baffled at all the help everybody seems to be receiving. your parents can make a million dollars a year and still not give you single penny for college. your parents do not have to provide a roof or food the moment you turn 18. i get that a lot of people are in better situations, but jeez the blindness. an 18 yr old needing to house & feed themselves while working as many hours as they can at a minimum wage hs diploma job can't afford a timely college degree in vermont. PERIOD.
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