Submitted by RamaSchneider t3_11yd3el in vermont
thisoneisnotasbad t1_jd780k1 wrote
Kind of a clickbait title.
> 180 lawmakers, who currently make $14,610 per year, would earn just under $30,000. Lawmakers would also become eligible for medical benefits.
Being a lawmaker in VT is a 6 month a year commitment. This will at least make it so you can do so and then survive on a less than stellar job the rest of the time. Maybe it would lessen the number of MA and NY native who walk the halls at the statehouse.
Azr431 t1_jd85d8t wrote
A 6 month session in a state with such a small population is quite long. Should only be 2-3 months but the P/T issue would persist.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jd78sc9 wrote
That's the article title - so click bait, if it exists here, is on Seven Days.
I think you should drop the place of birth bigotry too.
thisoneisnotasbad t1_jd79rbd wrote
I was not implying you created the title. Only pointing out that the title of the article while factual is meant to invoke a specific sentiment while the details of the “doubling” is much or nuanced and complex than “government officials double their pay”.
Your out of state comment it noted and ignored. I still believe it is nearly impossible to identify and relate to the historic and generational issues which impact a state when you grow up in a wealthy suburb of an east coast city.
EscapedAlcatraz t1_jd7exky wrote
Rama is the chief shit stirrer here.
thisoneisnotasbad t1_jd7f9fj wrote
Yeah, I usually don't engage but this is an interesting topic outside just the political sphere. Right now VT politics is pretty much restricted to people who can afford to not work 6 months out of the year.
Dukaso t1_jde6y58 wrote
I should have listened.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jdbxndj wrote
If I'm "chief shit stirrer" in this sub then you don't have:
a) shit;
b) a pot to stir it in; and
c) a spoon to stir with even if you had a pot which you don't!
In other words - you're imagination is running away with what you want to see happening as opposed to what IS happening.
But, as I've done before and as I don't do my public life cloaked in anonymity, let's talk it out in a non-anonymous, civil, personally in public manner.
Dukaso t1_jdd046m wrote
So here's the thing - the way the post is titled makes it sound like increasing statehouse wages is a bad thing. I googled you and see that you've run for legislature before, and I also noticed in one of your comments that you agree this is a good thing.
Ironically, I think a lot of the people who are shitting on you would actually agree with you, but are thrown off by the post title. Notice how the replies supporting increased wages are being upvoted (including yours!), but the actual post is at 0 votes? There's a clear disconnect. Given your opinion on the subject, a more appropriate title may have been "Progress towards livable wages for VT lawmakers".
I have an honest question for you - do you think that the average person knows what a VT lawmaker is paid? I'd wager they don't, and when a person hears that VT lawmakers are going to double their salary, their gut reaction is going to be negative.
PS: I know that you didn't editorialize the title of this post, but do you really think people are going to even open the seven days article? They're coming here for the comments.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jddlw35 wrote
I'm not allowed to alter the title.
Dukaso t1_jddtmb7 wrote
Wouldn't be the first time a politician realized they couldn't un-say something. Choose your words carefully next time.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jddxgnh wrote
Okay, I give up ... what the fuck are you talking about now?
The only way I could post the the article was with heading unchanged from link. Get it? I've nothing to unsay. Read what I wrote and not what you wanted me to write.
For fuck's sake.
Dukaso t1_jde0ze9 wrote
It'll auto-fill the title but you can edit it. Alternatively, if you title the post before adding a link, it'll won't set the title automatically.
Alternatively, it's also common to make a regular "post" (not "link") and the include the news article in the body of the post.
Here's a "link" with an edited title:
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RamaSchneider OP t1_jde4fv1 wrote
I'm done with lunch and gotta run, but I'll try one more time heading out the door: regarding your point about me not editing the headline or putting it in as a regular post .... I am not allowed to.
That's the same as "I am not allowed to."
Take me at my word.
Dukaso t1_jde4x3o wrote
I agree that you can't edit a post title after it's been posted. I accept your word there.
You have to change the title from the default before hitting submit on the original post.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jde7cmb wrote
No, I'm not ALLOWED. I don't have the mod's permission to do so. It's a permission thing, it isn't about otherwise available methods.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jdgph99 wrote
What you really need to do is ask the mods about the Rama-hater club that likes to keep you from seeing and reading what I post. You yourself pointed out the numbers that don't seem to make sense, and that's why they don't make sense.
All you have to do is sort posts and comments by "new", however, and the Rama-haters fail again.
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Aesopscorp t1_jd7by7c wrote
They gentrified were they lived now have flocked to were we live for it’s beauty, quaintness, and meridian of other reasons. Then realize we don’t have delivery and this place would be great if it had a Starbucks…or insert other mega corp. Said etc out of stater
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_jda8ecn wrote
I've heard that exact conversation in winooski too many times to count in the last two years. "On long Island we had x, y, and z."
Cool, maybe you oughta go back.
RamaSchneider OP t1_jdbx9yw wrote
You just defined bigotry, only you don't realize it right now.
"I can't define who I am unless I define who somebody else is by their place of birth." - That's what is reads like to me.
PS. Wanna talk this out? I don't hide behind anonymity in my public sphere. I'll sit down with you in public and civilly discuss this issue of birth placed bigotry. In public with full disclosure of identities.
Necessary_Cat_4801 t1_jda875s wrote
Oh, so this is why you're so infamous. Bigotry. Interesting. And no, we aren't going to drop it. Add New Jersey to that list.
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