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Master__Midnight t1_it0bt8w wrote

I'm 100% on board with Prop. 2. With Prop. 5 I certainly agree with the aim of it, and I will probably vote for it. I'm curious how it might apply to the male population. If someone kept or aborted a fetus against the father's will, would that be considered a violation of his reproductive autonomy?

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SideQuestWriter87 t1_it1xi1h wrote

Well… let me ask you this. Is the father the one that’s going to have grow the baby? Is he going to have undergo the (sometimes severe) physical consequences of pregnancy and birth? Many women never fully recover from having babies. It’s not like in the movies where they pop a kid out and it’s like nothing ever happened, afterward.

The reason women are the focal point of abortion discussions is because they are the ones who have to do the actual work of pregnancy and birth. Your attempt to make it about men is ridiculous at best.

I think the better question for you, is who in the hell is going to want to let you get them pregnant if this is the way you think?

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Master__Midnight t1_it3kxvi wrote

You seem to be arguing against all sorts of opinions I never expressed. Prop 5 is written in gender/sex neutral terms and just refers to an individual's reproductive autonomy. Obviously women are the main focus of this, but my question is how a court might interpret that as it relates to men and if there might be unintended consequences from it. Its a legal question.

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MYrobouros t1_ithsyom wrote

I think it's more like, you can't force sterilize a dude

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