My experience with VT's legal cannabis marketplace.

Submitted by cpujockey t3_y20hd9 in vermont

Well took the plunge yesterday and checked out Flora in Middlebury.

Quite a nice and clean establishment! The staff were friendly, they made a lot of recommendations at the door after being carded. The store front is very private, frosted glass windows, segregated bud room from the ID check lobby thing. Friendly staff, knowledgeable af.

As far as inventory goes, there wasn't a lot. I think that's due to the market opening up. However, they had some pipes, bongs and other paraphernalia - great options for the tourist or local looking to add a piece to their collection. The spoon pipes were nothing to write home about, picked up one just to help support the local shop. Also picked up royal goo and wedding cake - very tasty and potent.

Which brings me to my next point: price and quality. I'd say that the quality of the product was decent for the price. Better stuff than what the illicit market could render in my recent experience, but a bit on the pricey side. How do I feel about the price and convenience? Pretty good. In my early years of cannabis use I used to get impatient with the usual dope man meme of "on my way" for hours and hours. Now I can get my stuff during regular day light hours without having to wait for some sketchy dude or deal with unscrupulous derpy distribution.

What did I get on my visit and my total spend? Well got one thing of CBD lotion, 3.5g of wedding cake, 3.5g of royal goo, and a small spoon pipe - for $202.65. I'd say the visit was pricey but a very fun and exciting experience for this 30-something life long smoker. My hope is in time, this business will continue to grow, and product offerings will expand. My only gripe is that the pipe selection is very muted, but it pleases me that this shop doesn't try to sell itself as a weed smoking meme but rather a respectable establishment staffed by genuine enthusiasts that are not pushy or over extending in conversation.

I remain optimistically joyed and excited to see where my next weed shop stop takes me.

Kind regards,

Some asshole.

EDIT / Update:

Wow, I cannot believe some of you in the comments section. Accusing me of being a being affiliated with an MSO, in the industry or working for Flora. I will just say this, I am NOT affiliated with any of the cannabis stores or operations. I am an IT guy and guitar builder.

Also yes - I know the market prices are stupid high - much like I was the other night... But seriously, this was just a review of my experience shopping there. I paid my own money and went there out of my own self interest.

Ya'll need to calm down and smoke somethin.

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Eledridan t1_is0a3f5 wrote

Two eighths, some lotion and a spoon for $200 seems very expensive. Prices in the black market were coming down due to the supply from being able to grow your own.

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KekistaniNormie t1_is0dpkk wrote

Yeah OP- how much did that lotion cost? This seems crazy expensive.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0eo3h wrote

Well the weed was $55 each. I forget how much the salve cost. But keep in mind that the cannabis tax rate is pretty high, much like I was last night.

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KekistaniNormie t1_is0fisa wrote

Mission accomplished

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4ak96 t1_is0jkpn wrote

Its sad that MA is cheaper than VT

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gus_stanley t1_is0vi5v wrote

Mass resident here (Im sorry), the flower prices were 55/eighth for years here. Now, as the market continues to mature, the prices have been steadily dropping and specials popping up constantly. I'm sure VT will do the same

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bigtimesauce t1_is1xhmr wrote

Vermont will outlaw specials, same way you can’t order a full size pitcher, i guarantee it.

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KrazyKaizr t1_is1g8k6 wrote

Yeah that's what I assumed was the case in mass and would happen here. Still, I can get vape carts for the same price in burlington as I can in greenfield, so that's good.

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BigFerd t1_is2q7iu wrote

If you don't mind driving further south than greenfield, Liberty Cannabis in Easthampton MA has quality 1gram carts as low as $35/40 before tax. Vs 50+/- for a .5g cart in Greenfield

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aprilmoonflower t1_is34hb7 wrote

Look up “green mind events”. You can get carts for $10-15 and everything else for wayyyy cheaper.

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55Sansar1998 t1_is2xub6 wrote

What about Michigan? I was there last spring and in suburban Detroit you could get an ounce for $150, which is the same as what I get good homegrown for here in VT

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cpujockey OP t1_is0l1jw wrote

give it time.

There's also a 14% tax on the stuff here.

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Plant_table_couch t1_is0sahv wrote

Most MA places have a 20% total tax as local municipalities can add on top of the state tax up to a total of 20%.

As a MA customer, keep an eye out for sales. Some of the deals make it “worth it”.

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TwoCanSee t1_is10e1m wrote

CT medical is way cheaper then MA.

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4ak96 t1_is1qorc wrote

Yea but we are talking rec not med

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cpujockey OP t1_is0loex wrote

> It will take time, and the supply needs to build-up. When there’s more choices, people will be happier.

My thoughts exactly.

There are a lot of businesses that will be popping up over the coming months / year.

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escobert t1_is2end2 wrote

Still $110 for a 1/4 is like 2010 weed prices.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2hf2f wrote

to be fair - back in my day I was spending $40 a 1/8th.

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escobert t1_is2hruu wrote

I've paid up to 60 when no one had anything when I was younger and as low as 20 when town was full of pot. 40 was pretty typical for indoor, 30/35 for outdoor.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2ilz0 wrote

yeah, back in the early 2000's shit was all over the place for price. good shit was hard to come by, but when we found it - maaaaaaaaaaaaan it was awesome. I haven't found anything to this day like the OHS that my buddy let us take a tiny hit of once that fucked me and another buddy up for like 2 hours on my moms porch. fuck that was a blast back then.

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takealineoffmyclit t1_is2moza wrote

IMO $55 for a slice is close to the going rate for black market well grown, high potency known strain weed. That $200 price tag seemed high. But the slice price is good. I’ve paid less. But I’ve also paid more.

Thank you for your reconnaissance!

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cpujockey OP t1_is2tqu8 wrote

I thought it might be useful to someone out there to document my experience. I've done some YouTube videos on my channel about some of the tools I bought in my journey of guitar building. So I figured it would be a cool thing to do. I also just really wanted to experience the legal market as I haven't had a chance to.

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madamesugartits t1_is2n9ep wrote

Really glad you had such a good experience! Does seem a little pricy, but if memory serves close to what I paid at a Boston dispensary pre-COVID.

What other strains did they have on tap?

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cpujockey OP t1_is2tk9u wrote

Can't recall off the top of my head because the wedding cake and royal goo really stood out. But I think that they had available about 3 to 4 other varieties when I was there.

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Squidworth89 t1_is32qq5 wrote

$55 for an eighth?!?! 🤣 black market isn’t going away

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cpujockey OP t1_is34qq1 wrote

No sir. It's going to be around for quite a while.

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edwardsamson t1_is1nan1 wrote

My guy just went from $75 quarters to $65 quarters to compete with the shops. Sounds like he didn't even need to do that lol. Also sounds like we're going the shitty MA route on fucking insanely high taxes and prices for only decent quality. Meanwhile Maine and the entire west coast have shops with the highest of high quality and its cheap as shit (well to be fair top shelf is usually still expensive but you can get the lower grades for cheap as shit and its as good or better than black market/MA shops).

Some deals I've got out west are an entire ounce of shake for $80 in Denver (and it wasn't really shake it actually had little berry sized nugs) and a top shelf quarter on clearance for $35 in Bend, Oregon.

Meanwhile last time I was at an MA shop I bought 5 .5 gram joints and a slice for....$135. Ridiculous.

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pm_me_your_lub t1_is2c97u wrote

The CBD can be the difference there. Even here in Oregon where weed is CHEAP, CBD products can range wildly in price.

Here in the PNW, I can walk out of a retail store with 7g of flower for $20. Even less if you really want to go with the absolute bottom of the shelf shake.

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escobert t1_is2eizn wrote

Yeah, weeds been cheaper than ever the few times I've had to buy some in the last couple of years. One of my buddies said he has trouble selling anything anymore because everyone's got pot.

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Aol_awaymessage t1_is0il97 wrote

Having lived and visited places with long established legal dispensaries, I really don’t care if the price is double than the black market- I like knowing my stuff wasn’t sprayed with roundup and/or smuggled across a border and supporting some super sketch people. I like knowing what strain it is, getting to know what terpenes it has, how much THC/CBD it has. Less important, but also nice, is I support a tax paying business.

I also enjoy a light buzz and my tolerance is relatively low- so 3.5 grams can last me a whole month if I’m just enjoying a one hitter at night, so the cost isn’t that big of a deal to me. Also- edibles with real dosages are a game changer for me.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0lzio wrote

I know most of the dudes that I used to buy from and how they were growing it. It's not a luxury all of us have, but its nice to know.

I really hope the legal market continues to grow, not just for safer products and regulatory awesomeness. But for the folks that will be starting businesses and working in these businesses.

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yggiw t1_is35r8f wrote

but thats not how it works. it monopolizes and cripples the industry. look at oregon. used to have great flower everyyywhere, now its just millionares pumping blown out genetics just to make as much booty hash as possible.

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yggiw t1_is359wu wrote

ya know theres a big difference between supporting a local weed grower/ dealer who cares wayyy more about their herb than these huge companies that grow shit genetics that look just good and buying herb thats “sprayed with roundup and or smuggled across a border” (something that i personally have never heard, seen, or know about) vt going rec is great for tourists, really bad for people who give a shit that have been growing in the state for decades

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Aol_awaymessage t1_is37q0k wrote

I don’t know these people unfortunately. I smoked nasty brick stuff in high school (90s) and then stopped until 4 years ago.

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FunkyOldMayo t1_is0gx20 wrote

I’m old and remember having to buy weed from a sketchy guy who I had to pretend was my “friend”.

The weed sucked, you inevitably smoked dude up because he’s your “friend”, and it was always a pain in the ass. I don’t mind paying an extra $20 to get good weed super conveniently.

I also grow my own, which helps, but I plan on grabbing some store bought stuff now and then.

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FizzBitch t1_is08fvx wrote

Just like I don't by my plates at the grocery store I don't judge a pot shop by its pipes. An old school head shop is what you seem to want.

No edibles yet because of weird VT kitchen regulations BTW.

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cpujockey OP t1_is08tkb wrote

Pipe selection wasn't a factor really for me. I was more interested in the cannabis. The pipes they had were ok, just not a lot of choices.

Then again, this is a new business. Who knows what the future holds.

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RandomHero565 t1_is0reb8 wrote

lots of edibles at the one in rutland

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IndefinableMustache t1_is0yl61 wrote

Oh shit really? That's the only reason I want to go to a store.

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RandomHero565 t1_is0yr05 wrote

brownies, gummies, tincture *one that's water soluble so can go in anything, rice crispiesz etc

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whiskey_overboard t1_is0ht7i wrote

Did the flower menu or packaging have any detailed breakdown of cannabinoids and terpenes?

I was disappointed at the state of things I found in MA compared to what you see out west. Interested if its market maturity, regulation, culture, or some of each.

We have plenty of time to get better, but curious how things are going out of the gate. Hoping we do a bit better up here 😎

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cpujockey OP t1_is0l8p5 wrote

> Did the flower menu or packaging have any detailed breakdown of cannabinoids and terpenes?

I believe they have most of the info online from the lab testing they've had done on product.

They did include info like % of thc etc, but nothing too geeky if I recall correctly.

They did have these weird jars with magnifying glasses and a smell port on them. kinda groovy.

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charliedontplaydat t1_is0o6zz wrote

Christ on a bike: a spoon, a quarter and some lotion for over $200 is challenging for my psyche.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0ol3j wrote

keep in mind there's a 14% tax.

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charliedontplaydat t1_is0otp0 wrote

This feels like 25-27% “tax” with all the gouging.

My mental breakdown goes roughly:

Mass produced spoon: $25 2 8ths: $60-100 ($100 being the absolute top quality indoor) CBD Lotion: $25

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cpujockey OP t1_is0oyum wrote

55 per 3.5g product, they have other stuff there at other price points. I just bought this stuff cause it smelled nice and had 20-21% THC.

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charliedontplaydat t1_is0yk74 wrote

No shade on your choices, I’m gobsmacked at the industry prices is all.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0yuia wrote

I'm always a stiffler for prices. I grew up poor after all. I know the market is just starting to take shape, it's going to take some time.

I spent more than I'd like to, but I am happy to support this new business as they are exactly what I hoped for in the legal market: a place that sells weed that isn't a fucking meme (420 culture shit) and does so respectfully with really well trained staff.

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charliedontplaydat t1_is0zfl5 wrote

As I said before, I’m not shitting on or throwing shade about your choices, at all. As the world gets hotter and less livable, I think buying weed is one of the kindest things someone can do for themselves if they like weed. Buy it where you want to, I was just surprised.

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cpujockey OP t1_is1sjkw wrote

I dont think you were shitting on my choices.

you're actually quite respectable and knowledgeable.

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yggiw t1_is34enj wrote

and lets be real the flower in shops right now is boooof

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Thor5858 t1_is0zgpw wrote

55$ for an 1/8th is a ripoff anywhere

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docter_actual t1_it9fowt wrote

Pretty normal in VT from what Ive seen so far. Sad I know.

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Thor5858 t1_itcvs2n wrote

I’m sure it will slowly go down as the laws are further developed. It was a similar situation with recreational shops in Maine

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johneerottn2dacore t1_is0f88o wrote

Just moved here from Michigan in August, where you can buy cannabis carts at the gas stations. lol I'm excited for Vermont's future in legal beagle weed, it's going to be a fun ride for sure! Thanks for the nice detailed assessment of Middlebury, OP!!!👍

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cpujockey OP t1_is0fdur wrote

Thanks, I thought I would document my experience. I haven't seen a lot of posts about this stuff, so I figured folks might find my experience useful.

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johneerottn2dacore t1_is0q8f0 wrote

I'll look forward to your future reviews! I had some stellar dispensary experiences back in Michigan. Great bud tenders who really really knew the benefits of our sweet plant. It's going to be fun watching this blossom!!! lmao

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cpujockey OP t1_is0tw6o wrote

Thanks. almost considering doing one on my youtube channel, but that's more guitar building stuff than anything.

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Dukaso t1_is0tf6t wrote

I drove down to Middlebury last Saturday. The herb wasn't as great as what I'd call the "best" stuff I've had from the private market, but it was significantly better (and easier to get) than most of the private market stuff I've had.

The edibles were $25 (pretax) for 10 5mg gummies. Personally I'm fine with paying that for accurate measurements of THC levels. I'm too old to play russian roulette with edibles.

I'm probably who this stuff is marketed at. I have the cash but not the contacts, so the legal route is the path of least resistance for me.

edit: Hoping to get a local shop in the greater burlington area soon, but for my use, the occasional trip down to middlebury is fine. I didn't bother with Ceres given the hate boner I'm seeing for them.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0ttdo wrote

> but it was significantly better (and easier to get) than most of the private market stuff I've had.

Private market has a lot of ups and downs. definitely nice too have a retail space where I can just go to and not bother some dude sleeping or whatever. I was impressed by the quality of the herb @ flora though.

> I'm fine with paying that for accurate measurements of THC levels.

very much a benefit of having a legal market. Don't have to rely on a dude trying to hype some bullshit and calling it something crazy and telling me its amazing when its really not. Very refreshing to see data on the products online and also how clean the place was.

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RandomHero565 t1_is0r760 wrote

Mountain Girl Cannabis is great. Two 20 MG brownies, and a 8th of a saliva I loved for $81. I never go to any pot dealer I've ever had and say "what do you have for sativa", it's usually a few choices of good wees. No thc percentage available. 14 percent weed tax, 6 percent sales tax. I saw a few folks come in, look at prices, and leave. What's great about a free and open economy. Plenty of choices.

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RavenCroft23 t1_is13g38 wrote

Holy fucking shit $200 for 7gs a pipe and some CBD lotion??? Highway robbery.

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cpujockey OP t1_is14x42 wrote

again - there is a 14% tax on the cannabis it's self. and both products were $55 for 3.5g.

I believe these things will change in the near future as supply will catch up to demand.

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YPG-Got-Raqqa t1_is0i54c wrote

Pretty similar to the Rutland shop. About as expensive as black market weed was 10 years ago... not too bad for the convenience.

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cesare980 t1_is0kfap wrote

Seems incredibly expensive.

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thunder-cricket t1_is0p92n wrote

Maybe not on-topic, but I'mma post it here anyway, cuz this thread made me think of it: I'm a sugar maker in Vermont, and I'd love to make some delicious weed-infused maple syrup, now that it's becoming legal. I don't smoke though and am not involved in the scene at all.

Anyone have any suggestions where to point me?

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mijaschi t1_is0xmf0 wrote

so, if i want kiva chocolate, i should still make my trek down to massachusetts

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Loudergood t1_is2z6zt wrote

There are federal issues with crossborder sourcing.

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mijaschi t1_is2zual wrote

they’re based out of california

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Prime_Abe t1_is1237i wrote

A quarter for $160 sheesh

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cpujockey OP t1_is59zz4 wrote

i dont think your math checks out.

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Prime_Abe t1_is5l8dv wrote

I’d say it’s pretty close. A bottle of lotion and a spoon pipe couldn’t possibly cost more than $40 lol

What you could have done instead was tell us how much the 1/8ths were respectively, but instead you had us guess haha

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cpujockey OP t1_is5m1mv wrote

i've stated many times: $55 each.

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Prime_Abe t1_is5m6w0 wrote

My guy no where in your post did you say that. I’m not scrolling through 150 comments to find that information lmfao. Either way, have a good day!

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gcubed680 t1_is0iows wrote

Prices will drop once there is more competition. Would think the quality should be there, but I don’t know the rules with crossover from medical. I’m curious to see how the market goes, combo homegrow and then not selling edibles (yet?) I would think lowers the potential

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CherryChabbers t1_is0kv7z wrote

If you're a fan of hash oil or vape carts, there will never exist a quality product until the law is amended. VT law dictates a THC cap of 60%, which leaves no room for vape carts or live resin. Purposefully inferior (i.e. diluted) products are coming to the VT concentrates market, which sucks hard because black market concentrates around here are already substandard.

Edit: I was wrong about vape carts

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gcubed680 t1_is0wtmy wrote

Completely forgot about that stupid rule as well.

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Team_Flight_Club t1_is15ebc wrote

I would vehemently argue that the black market concentrates are not substandard everywhere in this state :)

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Left-Link5070 t1_is1bat0 wrote

I like what Maine does. Keep prices where they are but offer 50% off for medical card holders. I don’t mind paying more if its helping someone out medically.

Maybe offer 25% discount to residents as they are likely ones to buy off black market. Tourists pay full price.

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mulwillard t1_is0q5rg wrote

Jeez I was hoping it would be a lot less than that :(

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Kyzer t1_is2cmlr wrote

I’ll continue to grow my herb until we get a Colorado market. When I can still grow top shelf weed indoor for cheaper than buying mids. Either flower prices come down or electricity goes up.

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seanbob t1_is0f41r wrote

How was the line? What time were you there?

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cpujockey OP t1_is0fbtv wrote

No line, the mrs and I got there around 6pm.

have to say the shop was fucking impeccably clean.

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THEDR1ZZZLE t1_is0fmmj wrote

not the same shop, but i went to the one on college st in burlington on saturday between 5-6pm and there was no line. i placed a pick up order, but the guy out front said this was the first time he's seen it without a line.

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random_vermonter t1_is0ig8c wrote

Looks like people found out right away how greedy Ceres is.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0ler1 wrote

I don't plan on going there. Ceres seems nice, but there is some animosity concerning their ownership and business practices that cannot be ignored.

I'll check out other places locally, maybe even write some more reviews about them.

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THEDR1ZZZLE t1_is0nq78 wrote

i barely made it past the front door to pick up my order, so didnt get a good look in the showroom at all. what's the story with them? i live in franklin county and this was the closest one that google found for me. i just wanted to grab a few things.

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hotdogcarwash t1_is0ph1w wrote

am also curious about the ceres disdain.

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josaline t1_is0sshw wrote

My understanding is that they are owned by an investment group, so a group of people not necessarily local Vermonters. I agree with wanting to support more local but until more stores are open, I’m okay with going to that one sometimes 🤷🏻‍♀️

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cpujockey OP t1_isfhl41 wrote

Support a local business and don't shop there. Magic mann should be opening soon!

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szuszanna1980 t1_is1lspc wrote

Were you able to place a recreational order online? I'm only seeing a shop medical option.

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THEDR1ZZZLE t1_is1mu9l wrote

yeah, i did it on ceresvt.com. i didnt see anything about medical on there, but i had no issues putting in an order.

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mistahboogs t1_is100cr wrote

I'm curious what the cost of the bud alone was. The pipe could have been anywhere from $25 to $50 and the lotion probably $15-$20?

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0thell0perrell0 t1_is1bp4y wrote

I mean, that's nice but the market now has stabilized where it's easy to get professionally grown bud for less than 200 an ounce, if you have been around for a while.
I think it's good for the tourist/college market, but the rest of us will keep doing what we've been doing. Which is why Vermont is the best, they made it the poor can grow, the rich can buy, qe're all happy.

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cpujockey OP t1_is1cwq9 wrote

the legal marketplace has only been open for 11 days. Give it some time, there's more suppliers opening up and hopefully more retail spaces.

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outdoorruckus t1_is1dsg9 wrote

Coming back from another legal state that had upwards of 50-60 stores ready to go jan1 when it was legal, it was pretty pathetic to see that VT had only gotten their asses moving to 3 locations to get them ready. I’m sure there’s plenty of reasons for this, but the people licensing should be deemed incompetent at this point.

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cpujockey OP t1_is1fr7x wrote

yes and no.

vermont is still a very divided state. there's a lot of republican hold outs that don't believe in the cannabis legalization. So I guess our marketplace is a little bit of a compromise between both liberals and conservatives and the occasional wine mom.

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jjblaze248 t1_is1m6ml wrote

I just grow my own, 1 summer, 2 plants= year supply for my household.

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reeshkapeesh t1_is1ng0z wrote

Never been more thankful to have a homie with 6 plants

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cpujockey OP t1_is1nmcg wrote

I am still a big proponent of people DIY'ing their cannabis. It's really easy and not terribly expensive. it's honestly one of the most enjoyable things I have ever done.

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dadnauseum t1_is2c0gc wrote

recently went to ceres in burlington, their flower is priced around $45-50/3.5g. about the same as maine, and about $15-20/3.5g less than new jersey (the other two states from which i’ve bought dispo weed). overall, as far as legal markets go, i don’t think vermont is particularly expensive. i know there are other states out there with much cheaper cannabis—and i’ve never bought illegally—but i’m pretty hopeful our state will continue to have some really high quality selections and relatively average pricing, as far as national averages are concerned.

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kswagger t1_is0nrnr wrote

I will check out the rec shops for quality edibles, hopefully someone brings in the Garcia family line gummies as those are my favorite, excellent flavor and the perfect dosage at either 5 or 10mg. However until the price on flower drops will continue to get my bud elsewhere, definitely excited to see more shops open up especially in my area.

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Ecstatic_Starstuff t1_is0q1n5 wrote

Thanks for the good report, OP. Flora’s owners seemsto have good integrity.
I’m a cannabis manufacturer waiting on my license, and I believe overall it will be a good situation once it all falls into place.

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Attack_Of_The_Ewoks t1_is0qf8q wrote

Checked out Flora on Friday. Can agree, it was impeccably clean and well run. Was disappointed they didn't have edibles yet, but they said they would be coming soon. Will definitely be returning.

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serve_bagels t1_is0t2pu wrote

My two cents here, been to Ceres in Burlington a few times. If you’ve been to Massachusetts very similar vibe. Pre order online if you can, you literally don’t wait at all. If you’re looking for flower yeah growing your own is cheaper, but the vape product and edibles are top of the line and I’ve loved them so far. Definitely a good place for vape products, hoping they add more edibles soon. If you’ve been to mass it’s similar prices for things.

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cpujockey OP t1_is0temy wrote

Still - I wont do business with them. #vermontfirst

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SchwillyMaysHere t1_is1d36l wrote

The price should go down over time. Out here (OR), it started like that. Now there’s so much product that prices are extremely reasonable. If you’re ok with older buds you can get an oz for $25. Usually it’s $3-7/gram for good buds.

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Vermonter623 t1_is88nqn wrote

$55 an eighth? I can buy an oz. For $120 of some shit that will make you hide in the garage until the high has worn off enough for you to go back in the house and face your wife who is very skeptical and suspicious of your behavior. Also stay away from the edibles. I don’t have enough garage or time

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QuasarBurst t1_is18wck wrote

Thanks, asshole! I didn't realize there was a non-medical shop in Middlebury, gonna have to scope it out now.

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cpujockey OP t1_is1a9fc wrote

no problem ya silly fuck!

it's really nice there! Hope you enjoy

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xxKingAmongKingsxx t1_is1ek5p wrote

I get ounces for less than $200 of equally quality bud, and tax free. The dispos are nice in a pinch but the state is making them as miserable as they possibly can

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wholeWheatButterfly t1_is1mgn4 wrote

I just tried Mountain Girl Dispensary in Rutland yesterday a few days ago. I'm not super experienced with weed - I usually just get a disposable vape pen and/or gummies. I always listen to the staff but then can never remember well enough to know what I like lol.

So I might not be the best "reviewer", but I had a fine experience. Quick, simple. I bought a pre wrapped blunt for $14. I've smoked it the past 2 nights, still have a lot left and it's given me a good high.

They didn't have the disposable vape pens I usually like to get. There were edibles, but I wasn't really seeking them at that moment.

Honestly the convenience of having it right in town, and the process being easy, and staff being nice - that's enough for me to give a rave review lol.

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slipk1d t1_is2nw5y wrote

Are ya walking funny? 'Cause that's getting royally fucked.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2th1k wrote

In retrospect I probably did not need a new pipe or the salve that I bought there. Part of the problem is, I wanted to find something that was close to a product called muscle freeze that an ex given me years ago as I fucked up my back in September. I only bought the pipe because well the other one's clogged and I need to invest in some IPA to clean it properly.

After reviewing my receipt 14 fucking dollar sales tax on top of I think $25 of cannabis tax is kind of crazy.

But that's just how shit is in this marketplace right now.

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slipk1d t1_is2ua5i wrote

Ooo. Thanks for that. Never heard of Muscle Freeze. All kinds of repetitive motion injuries going on. Gonna try that.

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shitsh0wmama t1_is4r9f0 wrote

Visited Arizona and received free edibles for being vaccinated!!! I hope that Vermont has great places like MA. I started using in my early 40's and META in N. Hampton is so Knowledgeable!

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Guaranteed-Return t1_itmvy4f wrote

Massachusetts, $15-25 weed all day long. If you want "good stuff", Sour diesel can be had for $35. Most 20-35%thc is about $45. 10%tax vs 14%. Resinate has about 30 varieties in stock, web order and pick up. VT can't compete unless you don't want to drive. Weed in Maine is even better. Why go black market and buy a drug dealer their ATV, toys, food, guns, pills? Oh yeah, can you get 98%dabs or just VT's Miller Light?

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Traditional_Artist_3 t1_is0xhoc wrote

Its pricey because it’s convenient and your being taxed for it. That’s why it’s in the 100s and up of it we’re illegal you wouldn’t be taxed

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cpujockey OP t1_is0xz7v wrote

not to mention there's overhead for running a business. the local weed man runs a little bit of a slimmer operation than a place with a storefront, staff, and point of sale equipment.

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Traditional_Artist_3 t1_is1ua69 wrote

I think it was better when the government didn’t get involved although it was harder to find and cheaper but upside is it’s legal. Now buying an ounce is 500 and up when it’s usually 250-350 now for dro

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rocky20817 t1_is1lt10 wrote

If you ever go anywhere near Michigan, it’s worth a side trip. They are experiencing a glut. Prices and product selection and quality are excellent

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Jolly_Weather_1624 t1_is28swo wrote

Yeah in Maine they have THC levels in bud up to 28% (when I went this summer) and didn’t find anything close so far in Vermont

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ChimeraYo t1_is2eibe wrote

Thanks for posting this. I'm approaching 50 and I've never smoked anything (not even a cigarette) and I'm not about to start now. That being said, I have been really interested in the legal market so I can try edibles with accurate measurements and without the weed smoker/stoner vibe attached. I'll have to make a trip down to Middlebury when I get a spare few hours.

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PrudentEconomist1194 t1_is52jlf wrote

Give it time. When I stack coupons on deal days and use club points, I get an ounce of nice 22% thc bud for $75.

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Thethinginsideus t1_is2ezck wrote

This seems very biased and possible agenda?? To throw shade at “illicit market” like your meeting some thug in an ally or no show is not my experience. I’d say your not mixing in the right circle. The quality is the same except prices legally are too steep for the average person to justify paying.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2gzqf wrote

No, if you look at my post history, you will see I am your average asshole rural rhino.

no spin here. I've been a stoner since senior year of high school.

I am just documenting my experience with popping my legal market cherry.

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Thethinginsideus t1_is2hkxy wrote

To paint the “illicit market” to be as bad as you’re saying is just false. Maybe I’m the 80s and 90s there was some sketchy stuff but you paint a picture of your typical refer madness. I grow and have procured from others and never have I felt the quality was garbage, overpriced or my safety or time was effected. This brings me to what’s your angle?

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cpujockey OP t1_is2idr3 wrote

ok. so you are saying that me having to deal with lazy drug dealers from the time I was 17 till now is a lie to you? I've seen all sorts of shit, dudes doin pills with girls, coke, you name it. the early 2000's was a wild fucking time. I also got ripped off a few times too. fun times.

what the actual fuck. I have been a big proponent of the legal market, DIY home grow and all that jazz ever since I took my first puff back in 2004. I am optimistic about the legal markets because the create jobs and taxable revenue as well as new businesses. As someone that identifies as a conservative it might seem daft to you that I can appreciate cannabis considering the national platform is full of a bunch of cucks.

I am very pro cannabis, legal or home grow, the illicit market was fun, but ultimately, I'd like to see people growing real enterprises with this.

Give yer balls a tug.

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Thethinginsideus t1_is2jck3 wrote

Ok pal you clearly played your hand and are overselling the legal market. Just re read your comments back to people. How tf would you know the market stability and to encourage pipe sales at a dispensary instead of the glass shops locally is stupid. Guarantee your an investor or proprietor to be selling your bs opinion. I’m pro grow and DIY but hey go enjoy the legal overpriced market. You sound like a cheap salesman.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2jv82 wrote

are you fucking kidding me? I'm an IT guy and guitar builder in my free time.

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Thethinginsideus t1_is2k1uh wrote

Oh I’m sorry if you say so lol gtfoh

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cpujockey OP t1_is2k8i5 wrote

give yer balls a tug

I have no investments in any of these businesses. the only thing I am investing in is more wood for my work shop.

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Loudergood t1_is2zltv wrote

I can verify that's just the way this fucker talks. He's not selling shit.

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MortaLPortaL t1_is2pk3o wrote

>Flora

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So you openly support a shitspo that doesn't care its employees die on the job, and they're one of the MSOs that are fucking up the market for the local folks? You're part of the problem. You must be a paid Flora employee trying to astroturf your shit companies rep.

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Eat a bag of dicks and enjoy your overpriced, drier than squid jerky mids.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2swm1 wrote

I am not sure how your equating an IT professional who builds guitars as an employee of Flora.

What the fuck is an MSO by the way?

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MortaLPortaL t1_is2tvfo wrote

Multi state operator. Aka something similar to the Walmart of cannabis.

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cpujockey OP t1_is2u0tf wrote

Oh like the Ceres shop in Burlington? Aren't they owned by curaleaf or something? Sorry I don't really have a lot of experience with the legal market. I literally made my first visit and purchase yesterday. Well I've been smoking since I was 17, the legal thing is new and welcomed.

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MortaLPortaL t1_is2ueud wrote

All of the dispensaries are owned by out of state companies unfortunately. So you’re better off learning to grow your own or get railed with no lube in the taxed to hell rec. market

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cpujockey OP t1_is2uslj wrote

I am not a newbie to growing, when it became legal to grow I went crazy with my elderly room mate learning the ropes and growing.

I'm all for the legal market becoming something and I'm in support of people growing their own. Time will tell what happens with all this.

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