Tesla is owned by the richest man in the world. Im sure they will be fine. They also dont have dealers. Its just a room where you can go sit in cars. They already do fine in VT.

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I don't mean will they go under like some local sandwich or pizza shop. I mean will Vermonters fully support the brand. Home Depot closed in Brattleboro years ago.

I mean There are already hundreds of them in the burlington area. Plenty of boujie people to buy them. The local dominoes has two of them for pizza delivery.

Personally I'd never buy a musk mobile because I prefer my car to not be a touch screen smartphone where I can't even open the glovebox without a touch screen.

The issue with adding wheels and an engine to a computer.

https://www.businessinsider.com/teen-security-researcher-describes-how-he-hacked-into-25-teslas-2022-1

Software is written by humans. Humans are flawed, software will always have exploitable flaws.

Don’t forget everything is locked behind paywalls and subscription based

Good, cause who needs a 365 day Halloween store anyway.

Would it have a service center?

It will do fine. You are comparing a faceless corp to a cult of personality. The presence of a Tesla store in South Burlington won't likely change anyone's opinion of Tesla as a business.

How is Tesla a faceless corp? Of all the major corps out there, Tesla def had a familiar musky face. Moreso than FB even.

> Personally I'd never buy a musk mobile because I prefer my car to not be a touch screen smartphone where I can't even open the glovebox without a touch screen.

Doesn't help that they're not particularly nice cars for the money, either

Say what?

“Not quite as accessible or visible to transit as auto sales”.

Huh? What is he trying to say here?

Maybe “less visible from the road” would have been clearer?

Vermont is very pro green energy, pro EV. I can't imagine they are going to have issues selling here.

You missed the "...to a cult of personality" part. Tesla is quite the opposite of a faceless corp, which enables haters to target the individual at the top, rather than the company as a whole.

I thought they didn’t have dealerships to avoid having to legally repair them or something.

Tbf the company as a whole is pretty shit as well

In all fairness, this isn't particularly new. Even going back much farther, things like the prius that was making the rounds after it was hacked. It did require physical access to the car, but then was able to be controlled wirelessly, IIRC.

The main thing most cars have in their favor is the inability for them to be updated/connected to wirelessly. At the same time, the ability to patch bugs that do show up, remotely, is really nice.

I think the responsible thing for any company, especially one making widely used software, is to have a robust bug bounty program. Pay people to exploit and break your software, then fix it.

I'm honestly surprised there's no dealership already. Like 10% of the cars in Chittenden County are Teslas.

IDK where you were going with the comparison of a Home Depot in southern VT to a car dealership in South Burlington. If you truly believe that it's a logical comparison I'd recommend never opening your own business lmao. Opening a sandwich shop, wondering why no one wants your food and saying "the tire shop by my house does well" is in your future.

I love getting downvoted for asking a question.

My understanding is that Home Depot failed (was rejected by Vermonters) due to both the rejection of a large box brand over local hardware stores and the owner's insistence on contributing to conservative right-wing causes.

Elon Musk has outed himself as a right-winger and I'm wondering if Vermonters will reject the brand. Obviously, there are already a few Teslas around but Musk's new public stance is causing a stir among those in the market for an EV. Many are swearing to never purchase a musk-mobile solely because of his political stance.

Since the mask and vaccine mandates, there have been a few Vermont businesses that outed themselves on social by making stupid political or insensitive comments. The businesses were essentially review bombed and boycotted. They're all closed.

What can't you understand about these comparisons?

I thought it was to lower overhead so they could sell direct

1. Vermonters dont do that really all that much.
2. Vermonters love green shit

There's three other Home Depots in VT, so I don't really think you can say the brand's been rejected by Vermonters.

Can tesla's cars even do the speed limit? The ones i encounter in Milton seem to have some kind of governor on their cars that force them to do 5-10 under.

It's to save on gas.

Right, the Tesla makes remote internet connected intrusion possible. People do it just to prove it can be done. Less people bricking your ford escort in the name of lolz

That's Audi (too?). They sell you on all this great stuff but don't mention everything is a fee'd subscription.

You asked the question in such a back handed way that it comes across as snippy, that’s probably why you are getting down voted.

Agree, kinda a weird statement all around. I’m so confused

When you spend $70k on a car, sometimes you go slow to protect it. Sometimes you just go slow (even in a non-tesla) so pickup trucks don’t throw rocks at your windshield. Damn rocks and Milton Pickups.

And bmw. $18/month to activate your heated seat.

Rutland and Burlington both have Home Depot’s, never been rejected in any sense. The local hardware store from my home town (Castleton) still does alright (Gilmores) but I don’t see that being an issue in Vermonters eyes when Teslas are already all over the state. (For the sake of your comparison) What local EV company is putting out cars lmfao. I will say, I don’t see why anyone would get your comparison, I don’t understand since this post is comparing oranges to apples. I doubt there will be mask mandate issues in Teslas dealership when it is going to be under the spotlight (being the first in state, especially if it offers dealership maitnence) so I think that point is mute too. Just because there is some democrats in Burlington and Brattleboro doesn’t mean they can’t stand behind anything related to a “Republican’s” views (I could care less about muskies opinions/views, that’s why idk if he even is a Republican). I mean they literally voted Phil Scott in, so if we are talking about the same sample, Vermont, I don’t think they will generalize an entire brand over the owners private views, that (from the many teslas already on the road) they already support, and react by pushing the business out of Vermont. I don’t see it.

https://www.benningtonbanner.com/local-news/home-depot-closing-in-brattleboro/article_d82806e0-7b96-5b76-9d86-ea83ca7ac53c.html

Rejected.

I don’t give a shit about half mass Brattleboro VT. I’ve only stopped there for shit Thai and got food poisoning. Here, now we are both devaluing each others points with useless information. Just because this happened however many years ago, in SOUTHERN VT, and you didn’t read my point at all. Doesn’t mean all of Vermont will take small business’s over big, It’s opening in SOUTH BURLINGTON, where there all already dealerships representing most large name car brands nearby. It’s about time Tesla makes their entrance, and claims the market they ALREADY have, with the hundreds on the road in the state. Especially if they offer maintenance at the location.

Reminds me of all the Steve Jobs haters during the “think different” cult era. Lol. So many people swear to never buy an apple product because they got rid of xyz port, use proprietary this and that, couldn’t stand the ceo, etc.. it’s the same thing with tesla, and it won’t matter. The company will continue to grow just like Apple did because they have the best overall product experience.

This is r/Vermont. Not r/Burlington. You've made your feelings quite clear.

Your original article is on a location in South Burlington, not Brattleboro. So I don’t see why where it is posted makes a difference with our argument’s. Wasn’t trying to include my feelings, I deal with a lot of that in B Town on its own. You wanted a discussion, I tried to provide one.

Dealerships’ biz model is based on repairs. They sell you the car for marginally over MSRP, then they charge the mfgr for repairs while you’re under warranty and charge you exorbitantly once you’re out of it. EVs have so little maintenance and service required that this model just doesn’t work. All the new pure EV’s (Tesla, Lucid, Rivian) operate this way because they have no baggage associated with long standing dealership networks.

I found this report pretty interesting: https://legislature.vermont.gov/assets/Legislative-Reports/VTrans_DTC_Report-FINAL-12-14-2020.pdf

theburg2, I have been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty

I will never buy one of Elon’s.

Same

I enjoy watching leftist not know what to do with themselves. It’s comical to watch you all purge those who aren’t “pure” enough. We are killing the planet, right? So EVs are good, right? But the ceo of Tesla likes free speech, which is bad, correct? So Tesla must be bad because the ceo is bad, even though they produce EVs which are good. Do I have that about right?

I was referring more to the treatment of workers and the shit build quality but you do you boomer

35, so miss me with the boomer meme. Nobody is forced to work there, can’t speak to quality because I’ve not owned one. What else you got?

Edit: to add; Tesla jobs are competitive, and their vehicles sell en masse. So it appears the markets don’t agree with your evaluation.

Edit2: well done! You’ve decided you can’t handle decent to your opinion, unsupported as it might be. So you’ve decided to block my ability to respond to your response.

Well, okay. The following is my response to your response (that I was unable to post as a response, because you didn’t want to hear an antithetical opinion).

There you go again, calling me “boomer”. I just now told you I’m 35 years old, that puts me dead in the center of the “millennial” generation. Are you deficient in reading comprehension, or just obstinate?

If you’re going to make accusations about illegal activities, let’s have some sources showing violations of the laws respective to the jurisdictions under which the infractions were committed.

You don’t get to say “I don’t like this, so it must be illegal”, that’s not how the world works.

Tesla has been linked to several human rights violations in recent years in the Chinese plant and the cobalt mining operation in the Congo. I get you think Elon is some great conservative memer but the jobs aren't "competitive" they are slave labor. Done replying to you boomer have a good night

According to a trusted local mechanic the number one thing against owning a Tesla is that you have to bring it to a Tesla shop for service, independent shops can't get parts. Said local shop refused to replace a ball joint for a long time customer because the ball joint doesn't exist in the aftermarket.

Teslas are so fast. Hard to tell if this is even a joke. Most Teslas can do 0-60 in 4 seconds or so.

They have stores, delivery centers, and service centers elsewhere in the country. In those markets, they tend to be the dominant EV.

Shit even the American engineers were overworked

I don't think it will go under but the timing is horrible. Even getting past the Elon Musk part, it feels like most Vermonters who could afford a Tesla, and wanted one, have already bought one.