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Traditional_Lab_5468 t1_iu9eqtp wrote

It is fundamentally different in nearly every way. I'm not even sure where you would start. It would be easier to try and point out ways in which it feels similar.

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iuavpe2 wrote

Will you please explain some things one would expect when moving from DMV to VT?

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Traditional_Lab_5468 t1_iuaxkgu wrote

Expect it to be Vermont instead of DC.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but if you want specific information, you need to ask specific questions. People here will put as much effort into answering your questions as you put into asking them. I don't even know how to approach describing the difference between these two places without more info from you on what you want to know.

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iub4ztq wrote

You’re right. I was kinda probing for personal experience and at the same time I have no idea about specifics about the north east because I lived in CA for 34 years and DC area for 10. Im pretty broad rn

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vtmosaic t1_iu9apae wrote

For me, Vermont heals me. I've lived in Massachusetts (not like DC but very populous and constant traffic and some level of noise. Then I moved to St Paul MN, same. I was so sick when we finally went back home to VT.

and then I started healing. I am so much better after being home for about 7 years now. The most intense part of my illness I sat for hours watching an amazing view (they're everywhere here), watching hawks and other birds living their lives. Within two years I was ready to go back to work.

I've been hiking and kayaking and handling stressful situations without meltdowns for several years, now.

That's my story.

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HappierThanThou t1_iu9jgv8 wrote

I just moved back to Vermont after living in DC and then Minneapolis. There are two different DCs: one with all the political stuff, and one with all the people who live there just like any other city. I am a teacher, so was part of the latter group, and I only occasionally noticed the people in suits, who I think carry a lot of the energy you describe.

When I lived there, I was in my early twenties and my friends were pretty laid back, loved socializing, potlucks, dancing in our small kitchens.

I loved being able to walk for groceries, to work, or to a coffee shop; I missed being able to walk in the woods (though rock creek park has great trials). I loved the museums; I missed the mountains. I loved the variety of restaurants; I missed the produce.

It’s different—everywhere is—but I think what makes the “feel” of a place is the people you spend your time with, and there’s a lot of different kinds of people anywhere you go.

Everywhere I’ve ever lived I’ve missed Vermont. That’s why I’m back. But I miss those other places too, albeit to a lesser degree. . .

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Higher2288 t1_iu9x8qv wrote

Visit during February and stay for the month in an AirBnB to get a good idea of what the dead of winter is like and multiply that by 5-6 for the length of time that it is like that here.

My brother lives in DC and its different in every way. Sporting events are UVM and that's really it. No good food past 8pm. Cool music scene but mostly local/smaller artists while my brother can go see anyone big in DC.

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iuamfq8 wrote

Wow 5-6 months, is it debilitating weather? I’ll trade 5 months of heat & humidity for cold and snow. I think?? Can you elaborate

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YourAverageCracker t1_iuanwaw wrote

It's below freezing from mid November through early April. Can expect snow from late October through late April. Then comes the darkness. It's dark before 5 from November through January. And even now it doesn't get light until 7 in the morning and it's dark by 6 pm. January and February are usually the coldest and snowiest months of the years up here. Can expect a minimum of a week of sub zero temperatures where -15 f is normal.

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Loudergood t1_iufqjki wrote

Yeah but the second half of March the shorts come out

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Background-Ad7876 t1_iubje9j wrote

There’s a YouTuber named Gold shaw farm who moved to Vermont from D.C to become a farmer. He talks about the contrast a lot, check him out.

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Top_Artichoke1295 t1_iuapnpr wrote

I lived in DC for years and now live in Burlington. Everything in Burlington is easier from day to day living, traffic, crowds, pace of life, etc. But it is expensive as salaries are lower here and cost of living is high. There is less to do and BTV is a small airport so it’s hard to easily get away. Then there are the winters. It’s not just the cold it’s the dark and the gray. Even when the sun is up it’s often over cast. If you want a slower pace and can handle grim weather it’s a nice place to live. Just stock up on vitamin D.

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iuaxvr0 wrote

Hmm I feel like the dark and cold i would have to experience to really understand ty

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Sessab8 t1_iuczbm5 wrote

If you like outdoor activities in the winter, you will be fine. Skiing, hiking, and the like. Just get good outdoor gear and bundle up! Agree with the vitamin D comment and a happy lamp. It’s a good excuse to get cozy, read in front of the fire, and make delicious food.

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valhallagypsy t1_iu99j94 wrote

People in DC are out for themselves. Vermonters are much more trustworthy and reliable based on having lived in both places

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BernardMadeOff t1_iu9hyqv wrote

DC was fun during the 2010s, but it is now a crime ridden swamp.

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11BMasshole t1_iu9j9la wrote

I feel the opposite, it was a dumpster fire for so long. Now it’s gentrified too much. It’s almost impossible to afford to live there.

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Higher2288 t1_iu9woun wrote

My brother who lives in DC was paying around the same in rent that I am in Burlington but his grocery bill is ridiculous.

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BernardMadeOff t1_iu9u1i5 wrote

There are plenty of sub 400k condos for sale in NW DC. I beg to differ about the gentrification. It is an out of control dumpster fire now. The DC reddit has had to actively moderate daily posts about crime because they think it's just a political hit job from conservatives - even though people include videos/pictures. News flash, it's real and a result of progressive policy. The city is a mess. A lot of people are actively avoiding the metro due to marked increase in crime and unreliable operation. Be safe.

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D0ntaskme t1_iu9wx0r wrote

I’m from DC and moved here to Vermont in August. What do you want to know? Would you be moving to DC proper or a suburb (and which suburb)?

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iualzhe wrote

Fairfax! Do people let their guards down in public? Are they friendly in public? Do they tailgate and cut you off less often than here? Is there more peace of mind in general? Is there less politics on the news? I don’t want to be anywhere around racists and conservatives who call dems “libtards”. Is the narcissism less? Disclaimer I know narcissism comes with big cities in general not calling out dc area people only.

How did you adjust to the change in convinces that might be more in dmv? Thank you so much.

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fayshey t1_iuaxu9p wrote

I live in Falls Church and only know Vermont because my kid is at UVM and we’ve fallen in love with your state, like so many on this sub. The DC/Vermont contrast is stark but Fairfax is just a large suburb. Picture a bigger South Burlington with strip malls and neighborhoods. GMU is there. Very car centric. Not surrounded by beautiful mountains or a lake or particularly fresh air. But loads of more variety of places to eat and generally more people.

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D0ntaskme t1_iuc29a6 wrote

In general, people don’t let their guard down in public, but you will occasionally find yourself in conversation with strangers. I’d always say hi first to people I passed on neighborhood walks, and that set the tone. I eventually knew all my neighbors. The expectation is that you don’t make eye contact, so the onus is kind of on you to be approachable and create the space for a connection to be made. Really rough if you are reserved!

People are generally friendly but one critique is that everyone is so busy, it can be tough to get a friendship off the ground. Also, many people move here for work and are incredibly work-minded, so don’t be offended if that’s the first question you get in a social situation. I don’t think anyone means to be rude, it’s just like asking where you’re from in other parts of the country.

Northern Virginia in general is pretty solidly blue in presidential elections, I don’t think you will hear much in the way of “libtards.” Conservatives definitely exist, but they’re not waving Trump flags. Sooner or later, someone is bound to cut you off in traffic or tailgate you. There are too many cars on the road for you to NOT encounter an aggressive driver at some point. I can’t tell you there are fewer narcissists, but there are a lot of ambitious people and people with long lists of accomplishments/press notes/degrees. Some are humble and some are not. The local news occasionally has politics, because it’s right in our backyard, but your exposure will completely depend on your workplace, where you live, and your social circle. No one in my family works in politics and only two of my friends work in politically-adjacent fields, so I only heard political talk if I went looking for it. I will say I think more people are aware of current events than in other areas of the country, and at any given time you might suddenly find out you’re talking to the person who started the NGO that proposed the bill to drive that policy forward, or something.

Adjusting to lack of conveniences has probably been the toughest part of my move! I had to take my son to urgent care yesterday and was told to reserve a spot online. Then the website said there were zero spots available. In Virginia there’s an urgent care on every corner, I feel! And if you’re ever feeling lonely at night, you can just head over to the Mosaic District or Tysons or any movie theatre for the late showing, and be surrounded by people. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but sometimes it’s nice to have the option!

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taylor-reddit OP t1_iueibne wrote

You’re right, there’s going to be all types of people anywhere I go. Hoping the ratio of the crazy stuff is better is what I really mean.

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Remarkable-Story-782 t1_iuc2p8j wrote

I moved from Ashburn, Va which is Loudoun to Vermont. Our family loved living there but my husband prefers a slower pace. I can get why someone can feel it’s harsh. It’s certainly exhausting but can also be a lot of fun. It was a great place to raise my kids. I would prefer raising kids there vs VT because of all the activities the kids can pursue. Schools are better in Fairfax and Loudoun county. I think if you can thrive living in a more densely populated area then you’ll love it. I loved living in Ashburn, it’s just way too expensive.

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TheMobyDicks t1_iuhslkv wrote

Lived in DC. Locked Jeep got stolen. Cop came and said, "Yeah, happens all the time. Probably kids. It'll show up north of the city in less than a week." I literally thought I was the Dude when the cop laughed and said, "Leads? Yeah... sure. I'll, uh, just check with the boys down at the crime lab. They got four more detectives working on the case. Got us working in shifts HAHAHAHAHA." Cop was right. Jeep was found on north of the city in four days. All my tools were gone.

Moved back to VT. Biggest threat to jeep = salt on roads.

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