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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu79yqp wrote

I hate living here in a trailer that I own that is on land that I do not own which I am responsible for paying property taxes on. How does this work, is my trailer a fucking island?

The place doesn't improve anything. We have crumbling infrastructure, roads full of pot holes and cracks. We all have these MASSIVE White Ash trees towering over our 2x3 stick framed shacks. The trees are all infested with invasive Ash Borerer Beatles that make them unstable and unpredictable. These things could crush our homes like a soda can. The place has sent us out notices saying foresters were marking trees to be cut down. The marks have been on them for over a year and are still standing.

We are all working class people here and they can't even get the roads plowed and salted in time for us to go to work to pay our rent. I have many times seen people just sliding all about unable to get up the roads from the ice and snow.

The company is run by the United Way, you know, the organization that strives to fight poverty and homelessness. H.O.P.E Helping overcome poverty effects. Yeah fuck them.

They pour money into the salaries of the employees that drive fancy cars and work remotely because they can't be exposed to the covid like everybody else (not hating on remote working). When you need services you cannot reach them, only when convenient for them.

They have been buying up all the land in Addison County to build affordable housing infrastructure while neglecting ours almost entirely. They are constructing energy efficient homes by Vermod which cost around 200,000 each for something the size of a single wide trailer.

Why is our rent going up? What can I do to fight this and unite my neighbors?

Rant over.

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cpujockey t1_iu8oee1 wrote

You know the funny thing is about the park, they're evicting a victim of domestic violence because the original owner of the trailer is in jail and has had the cops called on them many times. The trailer is possession of his family who lives in the park.

On top of that, I don't think anybody in the park actually got a free month of rent from the inspections that Chris had done. Someone was supposed to win this and there's been no talk about it at all.

Additionally I've had to replace a rim on my car because of the potholes and park management is just plugging their ears and singing la la la la la.

The shit is getting ridiculous. Frankly I hope that there is a way that we can fire Addison county community trust because this shit is getting stupid. When I first moved here the lot rent was like $200. They have always made a point to raise a lot rent within the margin where we cannot contest it, to me that seems like a cash grab. Sure it's a slow burn cash grab but they're not improving shit and their offices aren't even open to the public. So what the fuck are we paying for here exactly?

Also yeah those trees haven't been cut down even though they've been promised to be taken care of. What the actual fuck ACCT? Y'all are so quick to evict people for being a little late on rent or whatever but do nothing actually fucking improve the park. I remember the fanfare that followed the water main project and that was a real shit show. And here we are...

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu8pha9 wrote

A few years chopped 2 down and got a stearn warning. No regrets. I saved them like 2000 bucks on free arborist work.

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cpujockey t1_iu8qn0e wrote

They really don't care about us. We're just a $400 a month payment to every one of them.

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thrudvangr t1_iu9038u wrote

If you know who the owner of the park is, you can take them to small claims. A friend in NJ damaged a rim at an A&P. They didnt show up in court. He got a judgement. A month or two later, when they didn't pay, he took it to the local sheriff office. They started freezing bank accts. When the company noticed,he had a check in a few hrs.

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cpujockey t1_iu9ei74 wrote

Yeah part of the problem here with the park is we have a stipulation in our rental agreement that we have to pay all legal fees no matter if we're the prevailing party or not. I'm certain that a good lawyer could actually argue to have this amended.

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Loudergood t1_iucw7yn wrote

I'd hit up vt legal aid about that. It's probably not legal

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madnessdanz t1_iu8xssc wrote

I'm in CT and our lot rent is currently $645. It includes water and trash removal and nada else. It also goes up every year with no improvements.

Idk what you can't do, but I feel your pain.

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kerrizor t1_iu95lcm wrote

Unfortunately that’s the deal. Was it different when you moved in?

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thrudvangr t1_iu7mvun wrote

they do this in Wilder as well. The road through the park looks like a bomb hit it. They are making $$ off the lot fees plus the solar farm there but no improvements at all.

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iua6bfb wrote

Are you In a Acct park?

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thrudvangr t1_iuaqiyr wrote

no a friend is though and i see how they let it get w roads etc

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ImaginaryQualia t1_iu7gzdo wrote

OP is right to be mad. These companies (not just trailer park owners, but most rental property owners) view basic human need as an investment. The corporate ones literally tell investors that the renters have no other place to go, so they can be squeezed for more money. It is wrong to have that mentality. It is wrong. Coercion for profit is wrong. Fuck you if you disagree. Who cares if their rent is low, have a little solidarity with people.

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darcy1805 t1_iu9k5td wrote

This is run by a non profit organization that is the main provider of affordable housing in Addison County. They have a small staff and are not making bank off of these properties; according to their annual report they have seven staff that split $233k in salary expense- that’s $33k per person. Understandable that it’s frustrating to feel neglected at this location for the cost of the lot fee, but improvements are being made across the dozens of properties that ACCT is managing on a tight budget. They likely have other priorities, like the 200 housing insecure families on a waitlist for affordable units in the county. https://www.addisontrust.org/uploads/5/0/0/3/50034487/2021_annual_report.pdf

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cpujockey t1_iuhv0m9 wrote

So what you're saying is you're a land lord apologist.

No one gives a shit about us over there. They are profiting off of us and evicting people for stupid shit. We have legitimate concerns about safety that fall on deaf ears.

Darcy - I am sure you're one of the office workers. Especially pulling info from their site.

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darcy1805 t1_iuipr7t wrote

Nope, I have no connection to them except in appreciating having an affordable housing developer in the county. Because if they aren’t doing that work to create and maintain affordable units here, no one else is. But I hear what you’re saying about the properties you’ve lived in feeling neglected, and honestly don’t know what’s needed.

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missoularat t1_iu7w22b wrote

But if you object and bring legit legal backing, you can shut them down

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cpujockey t1_iu9eye9 wrote

Yes but in our leases we have a stipulation that we have to pay their legal fees no matter if we're the prevailing party or not.

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Ok-Half971 t1_iu8r2p2 wrote

Contact ROC-USA (resident owned communities USA) they are a national non profit that can assist in organizing residents and putting together an offer in hopes of the owner selling to the residents. Then you all would own the land your homes sit on as a cooperative and you would control your own rent as a cooperative and then be eligible for federal and state grants to assist with infrastructure upgrades.

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greenmtnramble t1_iu79i9p wrote

You're seriously complaining about a $20/mo increase to $390/mo for rent?

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Twombls t1_iu7if0x wrote

Its not rent its lot fees. They own their building

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greenmtnramble t1_iu8opun wrote

Understood, when I initially posted there weren't any comments or additional information given. At first glance i thought this was just general rent, my mistake.

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cpujockey t1_iu9f517 wrote

It's understandable that you may not understand the dynamics of how owning a trailer works in a trailer park.

Keep in mind we're getting fucked.

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu7ax0m wrote

It's the fact that no improvements are made. This has been consistent every year.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu7bz4d wrote

Still, you are getting off easy compared to most renters in Vermont. 30-50% increases have been common, folks are paying $1500 for 1br apartments in buildings with equally lax management.

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Ehlers0719 t1_iu7cswe wrote

This is just the lot rent, they said they own the trailer

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu7d3cf wrote

Yes. If my water lines burst it's my problem. Furnace dies, my problem. Sewer line clogged, my problem. I own the building which would cost an insane amount to move.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu7jsns wrote

I get that, still only $20.

Your food receipt is up more than $20.

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cpujockey t1_iu8pcvl wrote

Dude you're not getting the point here. It's not about $20 Read up a little bit more. These fuckers are eviction happy. They haven't done shit. We all have damage done to our cars because of the roads. And they refuse to take down these trees that they said that they would that are likely to fall on our fucking trailers. They also have their offices completely closed off to the public because they're so fucking worried about COVID. So what the fuck are we supposed to do?

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu8khfg wrote

You are the type of person that complains with your coworker about how if the minimum wage goes up other people will be making as much or more money than you.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu8ol4k wrote

That's about as far from reality as you can get. I am in favor of high minimum wage for everyone, and universal basic income.

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cpujockey t1_iu9fpm1 wrote

You understand that we're not paying rent in the classical sense where you have a landlord that takes care of your dwelling. We're paying lot rent which we put a trailer on while we own the dwelling we don't own the land.

The point of this community trust is to make sure that we have utilities like water, paved roads, trash removal, and plowing.

We never have our roads plowed in time for us to get to work. So historically I've had to be late for work because my car can't even leave the park because of how bad the roads are not just because of the snow but because of the condition of them.

I've had to replace a rim from damage done by the potholes here in the park.

There's a gal that's getting evicted because she is a victim of domestic violence.

We also have a playground that isn't much need of repairs and is absolutely a rust bucket.

We also have to deal with the fact that we can't take a shit without telling us that we're in the wrong on how we do it. Basically if we make any modifications to our porches they freak out.

There's also this project where they're supposed to be taking down these trees that have been fucked by the ash borer beetles that has not been addressed and was supposed to be taken care of during the summer.

My girlfriend was supposed to move in earlier this year with her kids but it took over 7 months for them to process her rental application. We've decided to look elsewhere.

I understand that You may think that we're getting it easy but a lot of us here are already still paying off our homes, paying these lot rents, and have to be responsible for the maintenance and repair of our dwelling.

The way that ACCT has managed this park has been absolutely atrocious. We can't even meet with them in person because their offices have been shuttered permanently because of COVID. Additionally our park manager has not been reachable for the last 5 months.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu9nfvc wrote

You need to understand your beef is with them, not other Vermonters who have seen higher spikes in their own housing costs and faced unprecedented housing shortages.

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Reasonable_Expert_23 t1_iu7ey2w wrote

You can’t compare it to a rental. He owns the trailer and has to do all his own maintenance on it. It’s to rent the land the trailer is on.

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cpujockey t1_iu8p7cs wrote

Give yer balls a tug!

This is just one of the fees that homeowners here have to pay. A lot of folks have to spend $1,200 to $1,300 a month for the loan on their trailer, insurance, and lot rent. It adds up pretty quickly.

On top of that, owning a trailer on rented land doesn't give you the same luxuries as renting an apartment like having a landlord come fix shit. So a lot of us have to repair our trailers when shit goes south. Compounding this insult to injury, say if you have to repaint your porch because you fail inspection because the paint looks like ass or it's run down in certain areas You have to pay that all out of pocket. So there's a lot more responsibility to the homeowner here than just renting an apartment from an unscrupulous landlord. Trailer parks are supposed to be in affordable option for the working-class family. Addison county community trust consistently has failed us in keeping our road safe and doing their due diligence with plowing, salting, sanding, and just about everything else regarding care and maintenance of the park. There is a rusted out swing and slide set that nobody does anything with and it's supposed to be our little park inside the park...

Simply put these fucks are taking our money and not making any meaningful reinvestment into the community that they say that they care about so much. So while you may think this is just an issue of $20, this is an issue of compounding more and more rent within certain margin where we cannot contest it. We have our hands tied on what we can actually do about these pieces of shit.

For example there is a lady in the park who's being evicted who is a victim of domestic violence because the owner of the trailer beat the living shit out of her and went to jail. So now she's getting evicted, and even though the trailer is owned by the asshole's family and there's been talk of giving her the trailer she still has to vacate the park because of the sins of the person that lived in the trailer while she was living there. Makes a whole lot of sense right? Makes a whole lot of sense that a trailer park would evict a tenant that's a victim of domestic violence and was brutally beaten because it makes sense to them...

You smell what I'm cooking here?

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greenmtnramble t1_iu8qoum wrote

Sounds like a choice.

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cpujockey t1_iu8r66p wrote

What my neighbor getting evicted because she's a victim of domestic violence is a choice? Or the fact that we were promised when we signed these leases that the park took care of things and they don't?

I'd like to hear a little bit more of your reasoning behind the way you think.

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greenmtnramble t1_iu8rbs4 wrote

No choosing where you live or to do something about it.

Domestic violence is unacceptable no matter the circumstances and its truly disgusting that anyone would take advantage of anyone in that situation.

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cpujockey t1_iu8rpk9 wrote

Well my father died and he left me this place. I had to fight for it because Medicaid wanted to take it.

I kept it and fought for it because his best friend was still living here and was dying of alcoholism and diabetes.

Yeah it's a choice for me to be here, But my intentions were good. The park on the other hand has failed us. And I'm going to start talks with the rest of the residents here and see if we can unionize and put an end to this dumb shit. Addison county community trust wants to be too much like CHT, and they can't even get leases done in a timely fashion.

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greenmtnramble t1_iu8rvv5 wrote

I'm sorry for your loss and being in a really hard situation. I genuinely hope you get what you need and the changes you're looking for.

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cpujockey t1_iu8s3vl wrote

I'm over the feeling of loss and sadness. I am however filled with anger that these working-class families in this community have been exploited and live in fear of eviction for the smallest of infractions.

My anger is fueled by the fact that the park wants to evict a victim of domestic violence because they are a victim of domestic violence. We also have people that are elderly on fixed incomes paying market prices on insulin trying to budget living in the only affordable place that they can which is here.

I'm embolden by the fact that these families have nowhere else to go and this was the only option for a lot of them. My hope is that together we can all stand up and make a difference.

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Twombls t1_iu7i72d wrote

Ignore the haters. Landord are scum. They collect money without contributing anything to society. They shouldn't be raising your lot fees op.

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cpujockey t1_iu8ojto wrote

Well technically you can call them landlords but they're a community trust. They are wannabes of cht - frankly they fail us on every front.

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missoularat t1_iu7vxaz wrote

Stand up, there’s legal precedent for you to not accept the increase with no improvements. They always try to step to far and only stop when you call them out on their manipulative bullshit

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu7dbf9 wrote

General consensus I'm getting is : Suck it up pussy, we have it bad and so should you.

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QualityRescue t1_iu7gj4z wrote

I think the consensus you are getting is that many Vermonters have it worse, so be thankful it's just $20.

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cpujockey t1_iu8op2j wrote

You know if you knew some of the historical price hikes maybe you would see that this is just another cash grab.

They are allowed to raise prices within a certain margin without having a community quorum about it. They always get it within 50 cents of that. So they basically get the maximum that they can ask for without asking us.

You might think of this as just $20. But I want you to think of the grander implications that some of the folks that live here are still paying for their trailer which means that they have another monthly payment on top of their rent payment with also insurance. So some folks are actually spending upwards of 1200 to 1500 a month.

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cpujockey t1_iu8qk0z wrote

Do you think it's a little daft that our property management is completely shut off to the public and we cannot meet with them in their offices? Or the fact that we've seen price increases without the option (which is in our agreement) to contest them because they're within the $0.50 of the margin of where we can actually contest? Or the fact that they're evicting a victim of domestic violence for being a victim of domestic violence? Or the fact that we have all these dangerous roads and trees that are ready to fall down that they have promised that they will fix and take care of yet they don't. Or how about the fact that our park manager Chris has been completely unavailable to listen to our concerns while unable to do her own job. My girlfriend wanted to move in here 7 months ago... It took them 7 months to process a rental application to add her to my lease.

So before you sit there and claim that we're being sore losers about this why don't you look at the facts that are coming from some of the tenants here. We're constantly getting eviction letters thrown around at us for stupid shit. And there's not been any community " Town Hall " for the last 3 years for us to voice our concerns directly to them in a manner where they cannot run and hide behind a keyboard or email address. They never answer their fucking phones too.

So yeah that's the problem I have.

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violetk9 t1_iu9m0f2 wrote

I'm not saying these are not real problems, but people who rent houses and apartments from landlords face similar problems with rent increases and nothing being fixed. There is an alarming lack of code enforcement and insufficient housing code in the first place, and none of it is acceptable, whether you rent a residence or a lot. There is zero regulation at all on how much rent can increase so it's good, at least, that there is a cap even if they play the game of increasing just enough that you can't do anything about it. Just want to point out that a $20/not quite 6% increase on the lot rent alone is a pretty minimal overall cost of housing increase compared to what is legal and what has become incredibly common over the last couple of years. Let's just assume a total monthly payment between lot rent and mortgage of $1000 to make the math easy. $20 more is 2%. Cost of renting in some areas has gone up 50% or more with literally nothing stoppinglandlords from whatever increase they want. A 6% increase on $1000 rent would be $60 - so at least it is "only" lot rent that goes up by that much, and at least it can be contested if over 8%. I personally know several people who have been renting whose rent went up by hundreds of dollars and significantly more than 6%. Again, I'm not saying this is not a real problem, and I'm not saying it's insigificiant, but I hope you can see that having at least a little bit of protection in that way is good and something that needs to be fought for more broadly. Someone paying $1000 whose rent increases by 50% is a little bit more screwed than someone whose total housing payment is going up by $30 because only a portion of their total cost can increase, and only by a certain percent. No doubt if they could, they'd double that lot rent, just like landlords increasing their rental costs by hundreds.

As someone who faced housing instability for years while renting and now has a CHT home, I absolutely support better regulation on how people are able to profit from owning land other people live on, and that includes both traditional renting and trailer park lot rent. We need some serious housing reform, but dividing renters of different kinds isn't the solution. A relatively small percentage of people own trailer parks on rented lots vs other types of housing (renting, living in an owned home on owned land, resident-owned trailer parks). Maybe advocating for rent control of all kinds, with a broader base of people to fight for those changes, would be helpful.

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username802 t1_iu8r250 wrote

Owning a structure on leased land seems like such a bad situation. Not a knock on you, OP, just an observation based on what happened on Lakeshore in Colchester and reading stories like yours.

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu8twve wrote

I call myself stupid for getting it all the time. It was just a really good deal at the time. But when you calculate all the money and work i put into it for not being on my property it was a very stupid decision.

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AllyEmmie t1_iub1eth wrote

What happened on lakeshore in colchester? 0.o

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thrudvangr t1_iu91qp4 wrote

Unionizing as a park is a good idea as a commenter mentioned. Post yard signs like "Increased fees with no improvements" and the likes. Add to this a newspaper or TV news story. I wonder if thatd shame them into action. It has in places Ive lived in the past.

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cpujockey t1_iu9h24x wrote

The problem is a lot of folks are going to look at us like we're privileged and call this lifestyle choice. Yet here we are.

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thrudvangr t1_iu9oiof wrote

After seeing some responses on here, I can see that. Its such shit and easy for ppl who arent in this situation to dismiss as a choice. It reminds me of a thread on FB about ppl working minimum wage jobs where ppl were saying stupid things like "well just get a better job" or "just get into a trade union" and all this stupid "advice".

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cpujockey t1_iu9plcp wrote

Well that's something that the right and left constantly do to each other if we are going to break it down by politics. But this is kind of a universal thing no matter where people lay in the spectrum of politics.

You have people doing the whole learn the code thing, and then you have folks going learn to weld.

Frankly I'm under the belief that mobile home parks do have a certain value and appeal for folks and that should be not discounted. After all, they are quite nice communities and they are pretty affordable.

And I understand a lot of folks are of the impression that renting an apartment is the best way to live because it affords them the luxury of being in the center of commerce and where people are but that's not always the case for the folks that want to have a lot of hobbies that are loud like woodworking and such. Like I can't rent an apartment and run a benchtop planer without pissing off all my neighbors in an apartment building, But I can do such things in a trailer park with nobody batting an eye. In fact sometimes some of the neighbors come and hang out and talk shop with me so it's kind of cool.

These are just different lifestyles for different people just as much as some people go into trades and some people go into higher ed. I understand the frustration of both sides of the equation as I've been on the receiving end of a lot of people telling me that I'm an idiot for not going to school yet I'm doing quite well for not going to school. It's not often you hear about somebody that had issues learning how to read and write and was in special education reaching a pretty senior position in information technology without a college degree.

Different strokes for different folks.

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GeneralKlinger t1_iu7d0dg wrote

Welcome to the new world. I’d call $20 cheap by todays standards. 😂

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cpujockey t1_iu9gomr wrote

Not about the $20 dude. Why don't you read some of my comments and you'll see that there's a lot more going on here.

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timberwolf0122 t1_iu7jur6 wrote

So.what services does the landlord provide exactly? If it's a lot fee do they maintain the grounds or provide some facilities?

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cpujockey t1_iu9g89q wrote

Trash, water, snow plowing and maintaining roads. They suck at all these things.

I can't tell you how many times the trash guy comes here and totally ignores our cans because they're not exactly on the edge of our property. Like if you have to make these guys walk another 3 ft they will totally ignore your trash can.

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Sufficient-Voice-210 t1_iu8dfid wrote

$390 is a pretty good lot rent compared to the rest of the state and surrounding states. I’ve seen a lot of lots over $500 in other parts of Vermont and New Hampshire

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cpujockey t1_iu9gxv3 wrote

You realize that's just for the land right?

Like a lot of people here still have to make payments on their trailer, they have to have insurance as well! On top of that they still have to pay property taxes on it and maintain the dwelling.

There's also a lot of elderly folks here that are on fixed incomes that are getting fucked on insulin right now. Do you really want these folks to have to make hard choices about rationing insulin over a $20 price hike on the lot rent? Especially considering that the park management is not doing fuck all to help us. There's many projects that have gone to the wayside, people getting evicted for being victims of domestic violence, potholes that are in excess of 5 and 1/2 in deep, and trees that are ready to fall down that were promised to be taken down by the park months ago.

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Sufficient-Voice-210 t1_iu9irod wrote

I do realize that as I do it. I pay a $390 lot rent and $500 for rent on the building I personally think lot rent is dumb or buying on leased land

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cpujockey t1_iu9j4re wrote

You know it's not such a dumb thing when it works right. But the fact of the matter is the park only wants to micromanage when it comes to kicking this out, and anything to do with improvements or repairs to the area itself go to the wayside.

Look at some of my comment history you can see that there's a lot of shit going on here.

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TechNizza t1_iu9ahbx wrote

Reddit is a perfect example of divide and conquer. If the commenters here could band together, you could make positive change for each other. You are attacking the wrong people. You need to come together as one and fight your oppressors instead of arguing over who has it worst and demeaning those who are noncomplacent about the issues.

Wake up people!

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cpujockey t1_iu9gmpp wrote

Well that's a little hard when you have the renter class calling us retards for owning a trailer because some of us pay less for our dwelling than theirs. Sure OP's original comment about the $20 thing is just the straw and the camel's back to him. But if you read further from my comments and others you'll see that there is a clear history of neglect from the park management.

I would even say that there's some level of malice. They are evicting One of my friends from the park that is a victim of domestic violence and evicting her for that very reason.

I say that if there was any journalist with half a brain cell they would look at this thread and start interviewing us residents about our experience here. Because we are renters just like other renters but the only difference is we own the dwelling, not the land.

The funny thing is, The park management is supposed to be a 501c non-profit much like CHT. Yet they run this place like they're a bunch of slumlords.

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TechNizza t1_iu9hfjs wrote

And I won't discredit your hardships. I grew up in a trailer park and now just rent houses and apartments. I see both sides of this. Forgiveness is the answer here. They are hurting and so are you. You want to make change then start there. This is class warfare, you need to forgive your fellow soldiers or your oppressors will always win. It's the hardest thing you will have to do but it's the first step to winning the war.

It would be nice to have a journalist with integrity cover this for the sake of the people.

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cpujockey t1_iu9ij4o wrote

Well the only journalist that I trust with a level of integrity was Taylor Dobbs and he's been out of the game for a while.

I wish the motherfucker would come back

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu8u1bu wrote

These comments are very divided.

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JLHuston t1_iu962fd wrote

Sorry. It seems like a lot of people are in the same boat, but you’re not supposed to complain because others have it worse. I hear you. It isn’t so much about the rent increase, it’s the lack of any maintenance of the property. That would frustrate me too. It’s a really hard time for everyone right now. Hopefully you’ve found some useful tips from comments though.

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suzi-r t1_iube2b0 wrote

Some “Trust”!

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nolyfe27 OP t1_iu7ddz9 wrote

Thanks guys

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Connect_Ingenuity419 t1_iu7dwoe wrote

Have you tried touching your landlords camera through the fence? That chomo won't have any choice but to lower costs

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anotheravailable8017 t1_iu8m3wc wrote

I rent a 2 bedroom apartment in the Burlington area for myself and my 2 kids. I don't have a bedroom, which allows my kids to each have one (teenaged boy, preschool girl). I am college educated, work full time as a professional and my rent was just raised to $1585 a month with no utilities included. This was a $135 a month raise with no improvements, no utilities, and the place could use alot of work. They even charge to use storage closets. They rarely clean the common areas (maybe twice a year). This is a large well known conglomerate in the area. Not to diminish your hardship but, in the grand scheme of things, you may have actually lucked out with that increase amount

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TechNizza t1_iu99eai wrote

Why diminish hardships of others because you are complacent with your issues?

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cpujockey t1_iu9hiba wrote

Why diminish the hardship of a domestic violence victim being evicted for be exactly that?

There's also seniors here on fixed incomes with diabetes. You know that that means they're going to have to start rationing insulin?

Look we all got it hard right now but the fact of the matter is we can be working together to fight these unscrupulous landlords and phony property management companies. We could literally band together here in the park and all go on rent strike making a meaningful impact against their bottom line and make them sweat for once. I believe we're at a cross roads where we can actually accomplish that and I hope to unify my neighbors to do such a thing.

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TechNizza t1_iu9hyti wrote

That is exactly the point I'm making. I do not diminish the hardships of others. My parents are the seniors with diabetes on fixed incomes. I understand those hardships very well. I agreed with everything you have said.

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cpujockey t1_iu8plgs wrote

Yeah but you're forgetting that a lot of folks here in this park are still paying off their trailers and they're required to have insurance as well. So that can easily get them up to your rent, or even higher! On top of that they are responsible for all the appliances, maintenance and repairs that need to be done to their dwelling. So you actually have it easier than a lot of folks here. On top of that there's a litany of shit that's been going on here that is absolutely fucking disgusting. Go ahead and read some of my comments and see how you feel about this trailer park.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu8q1ii wrote

Eh, forget about it, folks from the park are just brigading downvotes on anyone who disagrees with their take on this.

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cpujockey t1_iu9hybx wrote

It's because you're talking shit to a bunch of people that have families here and the elderly.

Like did you not hear any of the shit being said here? There's a fucking woman being evicted because she is a victim of domestic violence. The roads are so fucking bad here that I've lost a rim and fucked a couple of tires.

The property management is supposed to be a community housing trust much to the same degree of CHT which every one of the folks here on the Vermont subreddit and Burlington subreddit have lauded as champions of affordable housing and all that bullshit. Yet the folks that are actually living here know that this property management company is making money grabs every single year to ensure that they're raising prices enough where we don't get a say in it or have the ability to challenge it. They have also deferred maintenance on roads and tree removal which is causing lots of safety concerns for the residents here.

I get that we are part of that homeowner class that everyone seems to hate when they're on the rental side of things - But the fact of the matter is we're in the muck just like everybody else It's just the onus is much more on us for when it comes to dwelling repairs and appliance issues. So while some of us might not pay as much rent compared to the rest of you the cost usually balance out into the black compared to some of you folks.

I just want to reiterate that there are families and elderly people here that are on fixed incomes.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu9n2lk wrote

Nobody is talking shit to you lol.

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cpujockey t1_iu9o4p6 wrote

I've seen you talk shit. Not about me. But about being a trailer park resident and that is absolutely reprehensible.

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DaddyBobMN t1_iu9qu7d wrote

You are mistaken. Absolutely nowhere has that happened. Not on Reddit and not in real life. Sorry bud.

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Psychological-Ad7440 t1_iuahztg wrote

So it is private property even if they got a 15% increase with inflation that’s a 0% therefore zero improvements

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Careful_Square1742 t1_iu8luu0 wrote

really? you're complaining about this? everything is up $20/month or more, including the expenses for the guy who owns the land.

I read in another comment that if a tree falls/water line breaks/sewer backs up that it's your problem. that's what comes with owning a home.

In the grand scheme of things, $20/month lot fee increase is nothing to get in a twist over. you own a home - that costs money and it never gets cheaper.

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cpujockey t1_iu8pplk wrote

Fuck you. The shit to do with the roads and the trees is all on the park to take care of. They promised to take care of these things for the last 6 years that I've been here and nothing has happened. They have their offices locked and no one can enter because they're so scared of COVID. These fucks are also eviction happy and are kicking out somebody that is a victim of domestic violence.

Give yer balls a tug.

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Careful_Square1742 t1_iu8rcjg wrote

sorry - didn't realize I was commenting on your situation too.

since I am now, pursue other avenues of recourse beyond "fuck you" and "give yer balls a tug." The instructions on how to do this are right at the bottom of the rent increase notice.

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Vermonter623 t1_iu8gcks wrote

Op has just exposed the difference between the educated class and the working class. At my job the corporate side stayed home to avoid catching Covid while we were exposed to every single person in our town

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shortieXV t1_iu8mefs wrote

I don't think it's educated vs working class. It's the class which holds capitol vs those who do not.

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cpujockey t1_iu9i5ac wrote

That's not true.

Any idiot can become a real estate agent and grow capital quickly. It's just a matter of doing a Randy Mayhew course and joining a real estate cult.

Don't make this an us versus them thing in regards to the working class. Because essentially the educated and the working class are the working class It's these fucking wannabe property managers and fake 501c's running this park that are causing trouble.

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username802 t1_iu8rqn2 wrote

That’s a broad generalization though. I have masters+ education and worked in crowded rooms full of people throughout the pandemic. Come to think of it, I might be doing something wrong lol.

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