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somedudevt t1_iuuh8wi wrote

Reply to comment by ginguegiskhan in What's up with the open enrollment healthcare plans? by buttergams

I’m taking school board, I’m talking mayor, I’m talking county, state, federal, if it’s an elected office you can choose someone who supports basic human rights or you can choose someone who doesn’t. Most politicians start small, and if the Republican playbook has taught anything it’s that winning small insignificant local elections allow you to redraw maps in larger more significant elections.

Honestly it amazes me that there is even a discussion. The platforms are just so different… I dont understand how any good person can support a platform that opposes healthcare, that opposes woman’s equality, that opposes gay rights, that opposes education, that opposes public institutions, that opposes economic justice, the list of their opposition goes on, and it seems the only things they support are keeping white men (I’m one so I benefit from this) propped up and in power.

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you_give_me_coupon t1_iuz3i6y wrote

> The platforms are just so different

Red team and blue team differ on plenty of things, but are they really so far apart on healthcare? It's not like the Dems are working overtime to get universal healthcare done. (Biden said he'd veto it even if it passed the house and senate, lol.) During Obama's brief period with a supermajority, all we got was a blue-branded version of a Heritage Foundation policy paper, to the right of even the Clintons' limp-wristed effort in the 90s.

Meanwhile even right-wing opponents of universal healthcare at Koch-funded thinktanks have been saying for years that M4A would save $300 billion yearly. I suspect they're willing to be so out in the open about that instead of spreading FUD in the usual Republican style (see climate change) because they know there's no party willing to even try for M4A, despite the obvious material, economic benefits for regular people.

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bizarre_pencil t1_iuui14e wrote

Only people who think like me are good people!!!! What a balanced and level headed worldview.

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somedudevt t1_iuz4yox wrote

So to be clear people who oppose:

Woman’s rights Civil rights Gender equality Economic equality Voting rights Gay rights Public education Healthcare as a right Keeping school kids safe Reigning in police brutality And support: Tax cuts for the rich War for economic gain Gerrymandering and disenfranchisement Religious freedom only if you are Christian Etc

Are good people?

I’m not saying that my way of thinking is the only right way, I’m saying that there is a baseline of decency, and currently one party isn’t meeting thst threshold. We can disagree on whether healthcare for all should be fully socialized or just a public option… but there isn’t an argument that stands for fully private.

We can disagree on what steps we take to reduce abortion levels whether it be family planning, or better sex education, but there is no argument that holds that a woman should die because a fetus is miscarrying and she can’t get medical help as a doctor cannot legally end the pregnancy safely.

We can disagree on election security whether it’s a free ID sent to every registered voter automatically, or vote by mail based code or whatever, but there is no argument to be made that we should limit who can vote, or that we should put up any barriers reduce polling places drop offs mail in etc that disadvantages certain voters.

We can disagree on whether the tax rate for Elon musk should be 90% or 70%, but there is no argument to be made that his tax rate should be lower than mine.

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