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18Nightcaller21 t1_ix1q10v wrote

Reply to comment by Outrageous-Outside61 in My New Favorite Past Time: Hyping up Dad When he Shoots a Deer by KaleChipp11

Where does the state biologist say they need to be killed? Invasive also doesn't necessarily mean bad. Compared to other invasive (emerald ash borer, Asian carp, etc.) their economic/ecological damage isn't quite as noticeable because they lived in the Western US/humans killed the elk, mountain lion, and wolves that normally lived in this area. VT fish and game recognizes their importance to the ecosystem since evey other major predator here has been extirpated.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi87yz wrote

To answer your question, yes you are correct. Coyotes fill a man made void in our ecosystem that is crucial. But as they’re population doesn’t self regulate in the same way that wolves and lions do, if they were left unchecked we would see worse issues than we do now. We will never eradicate coyotes, and I have no pipe dream of believing that, but with constantly curtailing their populations locally we can minimize the predation.

As far as the state biologists supporting our current unlimited hunting of coyotes, the fact that we still have that ability despite what the “Vermont Coyote Coexistence Coalition” morons trying to get that banned is proof of that. Seasons on all animals are very closely regulated by biologists, and following their recommendations is extremely important. Letting peoples emotions control legislation is never a good idea.

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BeckyKleitz t1_ix42u44 wrote

Outrageous Outsider thinks he's hurtin' somebody by calling them stupid childish names.

He's just a dude with a need to kill living things.

I don't kill what I don't eat. Hence, I don't hunt deer. I will hunt squirrels (a real invasive and damaging animal), rabbits, and wild game birds but I'd never shoot a coyote just because it was there. Even the ones around my farm. I've never had them get close enough to the house to worry about them. None of my cattle raising neighbors have had any of their livestock bothered by them.

Folks like that Outsider dude shouldn't be allowed to hunt in Vermont, or anywhere really.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi6r8q wrote

I eat everything I kill except coyotes. I’m glad your neighbors don’t have issues with coyotes, I do. We have lost calves, had one cow half eaten that we than had to put down, sheep and pets. Our area has a massive overpopulation of coyotes.

Also you are correct, as a hunter and a farmer I have a need to kill living things. That need stems from feeding my family and neighbors.

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