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anthonylornemontague t1_iwx0xoj wrote

Looks like meat’s back on the menu!

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[deleted] t1_iwxpnfk wrote

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inflatablemoses t1_iwxr3ko wrote

The fact that you call it buck meat and not venison tells us all we need to know. The Inn at Shelburne Farms serves it as one of their best dishes, it's delicious.

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Green_Message_6376 t1_iwx1azi wrote

How much meat would be processed from this?

edit -obs don't add your dad. I'm slowly getting used to the general cynicism and sarcasm of Vermonters. I love it!

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Ok_Professional_6723 t1_iwysjs9 wrote

I asked someone who hunts and he said he gets probably like 40% of the total weight of the animal in usable meat after processing

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Green_Message_6376 t1_ix0o9u2 wrote

Thanks. Someone I work with a couple of years back gave me some venison, and it was the most amazing meat I have ever had. Also learned a lot about the importance of hunting and hunters. Damn, I love this State.

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shred-i t1_iwyxi81 wrote

If you do it yourself, you can be more thorough, getting all the tiny scraps into the burger pile. Processors are much faster, but don’t spend the extra time to get all the small bits. Total yield also depends on loss from the killing wound.

https://deerhuntingfield.com/how-much-meat-from-a-deer/

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Eagle_Arm t1_iwxt7lp wrote

If they do it right, they will process all the meat and leave the rest.

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dcarsonturner t1_iwzl6uq wrote

Nice rack, not my cup of tea but I know there’s a deer overpopulation problem in Vermont, rather they go out this way then being hit by a car

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swordsman917 t1_iwzlsyg wrote

Very deep cultural attachment too. People who don’t live in rural areas don’t get it, really. It starts young and just lives on and every family eats the venison, so it’s hard to get angry about it tbh.

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roborob11 t1_iwxhcy8 wrote

We need more hunters. The deer are way too populated.

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Galadrond t1_ix6x6u3 wrote

Or we could reintroduce Wolves to the state.

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codeQueen t1_iwxva4s wrote

Humans are encroaching on wild animals more and more every day. The deer are NOT the problem.

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DukeOfLizards42 t1_iwys843 wrote

An abstract from an article in the Journal of Environmental Studies in 2015:

"White-tailed deer are widely distributed in North America and for at least 10,000 years have been important to human beings for food, clothing, and tools. Market hunting and habitat changes in the 1800s caused a precipitous decline in the number of white-tailed deer in North America. Hunters acted to restore deer populations. By promoting and helping to enforce hunting regulations, trans-planting deer, and funding conservation and management programs, hunters were the primary rea-son deer populations grew during the 1900s from 500,000 to nearly 30 million. Today white-tailed deer are the most popular big game animal in North America and hunters continue to fund deer management and research. Hunters help wildlife agencies to manage white-tailed deer populations within ecological and cultural carrying capacity by harvesting deer. Thus, hunters, with their inter-est in viable deer populations, are integral to the conservation and management of white-tailed deer in North America."

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Kixeliz t1_iwzzfei wrote

Lol humans are literally the alcohol in this Simpsons quote: To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems

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BeckyKleitz t1_iwywsen wrote

What is the problem is that there are no natural predators for the deer up there in Vermont/New England anymore. Sure there's a few coyotes, bear and wildcats, but they only take young, weak and/or sick animals, not full-grown healthy animals.

And Vermont's so overpopulated with people now, that it's impossible to even consider reintroducing larger predators like wolves into the state...

What's going to happen is that a major disease is going to strike the deer herds and it's going to wipe them out. That's what happens when herding animals get overpopulated. They starve or they get diseased. But I'm sure all you hunters will fix everything for us.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ix15ubt wrote

“A few coyotes” are you fucking high? I’m up to 12 I’ve shot this year and I’m barely making a dent on the cocksuckers that like to get right on my porch.

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BeckyKleitz t1_ix19lpg wrote

So why are you complaining about there being too many deer then? Stop killing the coyotes and kill more deer.

Predators have to eat too, yahno.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ix1a0bs wrote

Dumbass. I tag out every year in Vermont. Also hunt MA, NH and ME. Coyotes are invasive and need to be killed as recommended by our state biologists, unlimited.

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18Nightcaller21 t1_ix1q10v wrote

Where does the state biologist say they need to be killed? Invasive also doesn't necessarily mean bad. Compared to other invasive (emerald ash borer, Asian carp, etc.) their economic/ecological damage isn't quite as noticeable because they lived in the Western US/humans killed the elk, mountain lion, and wolves that normally lived in this area. VT fish and game recognizes their importance to the ecosystem since evey other major predator here has been extirpated.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi87yz wrote

To answer your question, yes you are correct. Coyotes fill a man made void in our ecosystem that is crucial. But as they’re population doesn’t self regulate in the same way that wolves and lions do, if they were left unchecked we would see worse issues than we do now. We will never eradicate coyotes, and I have no pipe dream of believing that, but with constantly curtailing their populations locally we can minimize the predation.

As far as the state biologists supporting our current unlimited hunting of coyotes, the fact that we still have that ability despite what the “Vermont Coyote Coexistence Coalition” morons trying to get that banned is proof of that. Seasons on all animals are very closely regulated by biologists, and following their recommendations is extremely important. Letting peoples emotions control legislation is never a good idea.

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BeckyKleitz t1_ix42u44 wrote

Outrageous Outsider thinks he's hurtin' somebody by calling them stupid childish names.

He's just a dude with a need to kill living things.

I don't kill what I don't eat. Hence, I don't hunt deer. I will hunt squirrels (a real invasive and damaging animal), rabbits, and wild game birds but I'd never shoot a coyote just because it was there. Even the ones around my farm. I've never had them get close enough to the house to worry about them. None of my cattle raising neighbors have had any of their livestock bothered by them.

Folks like that Outsider dude shouldn't be allowed to hunt in Vermont, or anywhere really.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi6r8q wrote

I eat everything I kill except coyotes. I’m glad your neighbors don’t have issues with coyotes, I do. We have lost calves, had one cow half eaten that we than had to put down, sheep and pets. Our area has a massive overpopulation of coyotes.

Also you are correct, as a hunter and a farmer I have a need to kill living things. That need stems from feeding my family and neighbors.

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Redstoneprime t1_ixhw94z wrote

Pretty sure coyotes are literally native to America, though? Which means they are 100% NOT invasive.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi4qkg wrote

Coyotes are invasive to the northeast, also our coyotes in the northeast have a lot of dog and Timberwolf bred in. While they are filling a gap in our predator population and serve a purpose, they are invasive and need to be heavily controlled.

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Redstoneprime t1_ixi4yiy wrote

Not as bad as the invasive feral hogs, though (since, unlike the hogs, the coyotes aren't causing any damage to the ecosystem).

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi5cri wrote

Yeah, we are extremely lucky to not have hogs here. Probably only a matter of time before the guy in orange has a bunch out again for a year and starts a friggin feral hog population.

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Redstoneprime t1_ixi5i1i wrote

Also: did the coyotes enter the area naturally or were they introduced by humans?

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi60vv wrote

Humans eradicated timberwolves in the northeast, western coyotes bred with timberwolves and were able to acclimate here, they have since bred with dogs as well. They are a much larger animal than a western coyote. They didn’t appear in Vermont until the 1940’s and didn’t really get a large population until the 1960’s. By definition though, they are a non native species to the east and are thereby invasive.

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Redstoneprime t1_ixi8j94 wrote

I guess, in a way, it's nature trying to fill in a niche that was previously done by another species that has been hunted to near extinction.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ixi6917 wrote

It’s honestly a fascinating phenomenon, but to think that just letting them be would solve the issue is asinine. They are a product of humans fuckups and therefor need human control. They are impossible to eradicate, but still need to be consistently kept in check.

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grnmtnboy0 t1_iwx3eax wrote

Nice! 9-pointer? looks around 200 pounds?

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Left-Link5070 t1_iwx5t0q wrote

10

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Beardly_Smith t1_iwy8swx wrote

Only 10 lbs? That’s a shame. At least the nine point rack will make a good trophy

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Awagner109 t1_iwye2q2 wrote

Look close at the picture it’s a 10 pointer. Lol

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Traditional_Lab_5468 t1_iwz47a7 wrote

Weird to see a 10 pointer so underweight.

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Galadrond t1_ix6xear wrote

Overpopulation which leads to the Deer overbrowsing. The Deer are subsequently underweight and eventually are stunted in growth. Just look at the Deer population in New Jersey.

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_iwx2030 wrote

Awesome!

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ix167i0 wrote

Fuck me, it’s awesome I’m getting downvotes because I’m happy a nice buck got harvested in Vermont. Fucking Reddit flatlanders. Get fucked.

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MrHoonigan802 t1_ixluf4c wrote

Can you kill the Japanese beetles next year too please? I have plenty of ammo lol

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mitcheld39 t1_iwx48tn wrote

Get some!!!!!!

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_iwwzlsc wrote

HUNTING BAD! DOWNVOTES!

Jus to clarify… s/

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Outrageous-Outside61 t1_ix16dsp wrote

You’re getting more downvotes because of the /s from all the transplants that live on Reddit.

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_ix1b4bi wrote

Oh for sure.

Funny part is when I commented the post and every comment was downvoted to shit.

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Left-Link5070 t1_iwx6ida wrote

Just wait for Burlington city council to protest buck hunting season due to gender identity concerns

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deadowl t1_iwxgj8g wrote

My grandpa had a story that this one time he accidentally shot the wrong sex of a bird (female pheasant I think) and the game warden was coming his way so he hid the bird by shoving it down his pants. Then left the pants in the washing machine after getting home, which kind of freaked out his mom. Don't think the game warden or anyone else is gonna think about the gender identity of birds beyond an ecological maintenance standpoint.

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