5teerPike t1_iy43qnc wrote
Reply to comment by MYrobouros in ‘Braver Angels’ in Vermont Want to Change Political Discourse by pjdog603
My experience with local conservatives is that they're fine with censoring drag queen story hour at a local library because the performers need "better vetting", meanwhile they had nothing to say for the actual pedophile caught at the local school. . . . .
MYrobouros t1_iy46zot wrote
Yeah but that's a problem with local centrists too in my experience. Like, committed Dems are all of a sudden very tut-tut about speaking up for drag queens. My point being, there's already discourse, I guess, and I have a hard time believing it'll be better because some cooler heads just-asking-questions people show up.
But you're right. There's a narrow lane for cooperation and it becomes a tight rope for social issues (and impossible for good faith work on sex crimes.)
5teerPike t1_iy48kjz wrote
Those are centrist Dems and theyre really more right of center for that.
There's a lot of liberal window dressing in Vermont that's for sure. The "just asking questions" crowd can't take it when people question them.
It becomes a tight rope on the social, and the fiscal does affect the social, and one crowd is just burning the rope while the center is saying they're fine if the left gets burned because at least we all let the right bring matches.
MYrobouros t1_iy5aatt wrote
I also feel that, often enough, the voters are left of the select board or the boards of various municipal institutions here, which is deeply frustrating. Or, not even always specifically left, so much as just further out. Like, I don't know that it's a lefty position to think that 3 acre minimum lots are bad/good policy, or what have you. And then you wonder why you get low voter turnout, and the answer has to be tied up in e.g. zoning and/or cannabis red tape.
5teerPike t1_iy5b1uu wrote
Absolutely, I also dislike that there are select board positions that are unelected as well. So we have to wait for them or resign or be stuck changing absolutely nothing.
MYrobouros t1_iy5wk2j wrote
I guess the good news is, have you seen the model zoning guide that the State made with the Congress for the New Urbanism? It's only passingly relevant to this thread but I think it's an excellent document.
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