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somedudevt t1_iz70p0d wrote

Some of these properties are and were in disrepair prior, but let’s not pretend that a lot of these “unhoused” people are destroying them. There isn’t a day that passes where the police are not at the one in Berlin, breaking up a fight, arresting someone to disorderly conduct, the program has a value and serves a purpose when the people in it are invested in improving their situation. But when half are shooting heroin and causing mayhem, how can we expect these owners to be motivated to make the living situation better.

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Loosh_03062 t1_iz9blq2 wrote

Rutland Town saw similar issues with the old Cortina Inn. The hotel ended up having to pay the town for the extra police work involved with having the place be a shelter. One has to wonder how many places will forever be "that blasted shelter" to locals, even after the program ends.

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lindrios OP t1_iz9zlln wrote

Some useful information here concerning excessive police calls at these properties. It's a two part equation.

  1. there are drug/violence situations that require law enforcement, this will happen anywhere

  2. the property owners of the shitty hotels/motels regularly call the police on tenants as a form of intimidation. They also routinely call police to perform "evictions" on tenants that make them unhappy or file complaints about their treatment. This happened so frequently at the Econo Lodge in Saint Albans that the SAPD will no longer show up for these "evictions" as they are now aware the tenants have Occupancy Agreements and can't be ripped out of their housing because a hotel owner is having a bad day. IE if a tenant calls a property owner an unsavory name, the owner will call the PD because they are butthurt.

  3. with property owners basically abusing the PD functions and using them as "intimidation" by calling them multiple times a day it's stretched the already small PDs to their limits.

  4. Cortina Inn was one of the places that was calling PD whenever the owner was having a bad day. We will call these "Petty Calls". This led to the PD being misused as "security" for the property and eventually they got fed up with the drain of their resources and personal and demanded compensation for calling them so frequently.

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bobsizzle t1_izgos0c wrote

That place is a dump. But at some point, there is a reason why the people that live there, do. Bad choices. It's putting a bunch of criminals and addicts in one location. People who don't always want to actually be productive citizens. Some would rather live off the state and use and or sell drugs. There might be a few good people staying there, but sometimes a few ruin it for the rest. They need to help people who actually contribute to society with housing. There are plenty of Jobs around. 15 isn't a lot, but you can get by with it for a while as long as you're not spending half of what you make on rent. They should have work requirements for a lot of these programs. If you can work and refuse, you can live under a bridge in a tent. There's no personal accountability anymore. I've seen so many 'disabled' people doing things that are just as physically hard as something they'd do at work

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