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Dadfart802 t1_izfx2qb wrote

Reply to comment by Nutmegdog1959 in UVM Students Charged for 'Extreme' Dorm Damages by Hazmat1575

I didn’t add that bc, people pay rent regardless. 2nd, UVM accepts in state credit more often than not they don’t. 3rd, there are 82 VT high schools vs around 2200 UVM students from VT, half of which are going for free.

My kid is probably going to get the G & G but won’t be attending UVM because she’s got better offers OOS. Back to your original point, UVM is expensive but not unaffordable. As for equity, the UVM promise makes it so anyone who’s parents make under 60k a year, can attend for free. It’s easy to say that college is unaffordable, but if you dig in a little, that’s just not true.

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Nutmegdog1959 t1_izgjgxe wrote

I'm mostly in agreement with you, and very good for your kid!

It's the middle to lower middle class who get pinched. It doesn't take much to get to $60k. Single parents (9 out of 10 are women) OK $60k is more than average. But, godforbid, a two parent household, $60k is easy to get to with two modest incomes.

Also ,VT HS kids matriculate at a lower rate than all other HS students in states with comparable HS graduation rates. What does that tell you?

I agree, not unaffordable, but you gotta convince the VT HS kids of that. The only thing more expensive than going to college in VT is NOT going to college.

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Dadfart802 t1_izhdipi wrote

Agreed, but there is a HUGE need for tradespeople in this state, but lack of housing is hurting growth in this state.

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Nutmegdog1959 t1_izkb8fu wrote

Exactly!

That's where our CCV is a complete and total failure.

We could have annexed the four failed VT colleges into the VT State College system, wiped out CCV as it stands, and incorporate trade schools into the State College/CCV footprint.

Every building trade now requires serious knowledge of computer hardware and software in addition to the specific trade.

Every HVAC system, electric supply, plumbing, design/build, solar, everything now requires extensive use of computers, hardware, software, testing equipment, field assembly, etc.

There is only VTC in VT to train young wo/men to break into these fields and these programs don't necessarily lead to an AS degree.

It's not like the good old days where you can pick up a hammer and learn a trade. Who's going to train them? Using what standards?

One school in Williston does not serve the whole state.

Go over to NY and almost every CC has a building trades program. If you're not the most interested in college you can stop at the AS degree. If you want to go on you can take it to engineering, architecture, etc. HVCC in Troy, NY allows you to transfer from CC to RPI's engineering program, one or the best in the country!

Our entire post secondary system in this state is week as hell!

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