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whaletacochamp t1_j23ve1o wrote

Reply to comment by tadamhicks in UVM too expensive by Constant_Education_4

I stopped reading when you insinuated that tradespeople don’t need to know how to think critically. I can’t take anything else you say seriously after that my man.

Yes it’s true that a lot of trades cap out, but it’s also true that a lot of people with masters and PhDs never make more than 6 figures. At the end of the day critical thinking is not the deciding factor.

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tadamhicks t1_j23w3px wrote

Since I didn’t say it and you felt I insinuated it then you’re displaying an inability to think critically. If you had read on I said nothing is stopping anyone from learning to think critically.

BTW there’s a difference between needing to and being able to. Plenty of my trades-person friends are the smartest people I know, and boy howdy do I have some dumb friends that made it through college. College is not insurance to greatness by any means. Heck one of the happiest people I know is a guy who has a PhD in biology and started a moving company. He’s fit as hell because he just hauls stuff all day. He’s his own boss so he can take off days whenever he wants. But I will also add that the reason he makes that work for him is the same reason he was capable of achieving a PhD…and just like college cam seem like a scam I think there’s an illusion that everyone skipping it can jump into a 6 figure trade, which also isn’t true.

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whaletacochamp t1_j243th1 wrote

>Since I didn’t say it and you felt I insinuated it then you’re displaying an inability to think critically.

You literally did say it..."trades people can make a lot of dough whereas people who know how to think critically"

You don't need much critical thinking or reading comprehension skills to understand what you meant by this. And just because you go on to say that a lot of college grads don't have critical thinking skills doesn't make your other comment ok/true. Honestly most of the people I know in the trades have better critical and practical thinking skills than most college grads that I know since most college grads can't think outside of what they've been taught/told.

Your last paragraph (really last line) here is all true, but it took you making some silly points to get there.

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tadamhicks t1_j2447ky wrote

Nah man, the point I was 100% intending to make was that you don’t get rich by being a trades person, you get rich by being smart. I never implied college is the only way to get smart. But I did say it’s a much easier path to get smart than trying to do it when you’re tired from working all day at your trade, at least when you’re not already a bright bulb.

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cpujockey t1_j240gsc wrote

> At the end of the day critical thinking is not the deciding factor.

if that was the case the C-Suite would be doing my job...

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whaletacochamp t1_j242xvj wrote

You're misunderstanding. The folks in trades are doing just as much critical thinking as you CPU jockeys. So there's no difference in critical thinking ability or amount - just different things to think critically about.

Troubleshooting a very complex electrical or plumbing system is really not that far from troubleshooting a broken code or something along those lines, and often requires more peripheral knowledge and physical skill than coding does.

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cpujockey t1_j2437iu wrote

That sort of knowledge can be learned hands-on and with experience. I've built my career on experience alone. I have a lot of faith in folks to be more than the sum of their parts.

You'd be surprised how much you can learn on your own especially when it comes to small business accounting. QuickBooks and other software really help streamline the process of managing your own bookkeeping. Additionally you can hire things like a tax service or even a bookkeeper if need be. There are many services to help in this regard.

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tadamhicks t1_j244m2e wrote

Good trades people is what you’re talking about. Know how many shit ones live in my town? Of course they’re the only ones with free space in their books, too. All the tools, none of the brains.

And yeah, the best plumbers and electricians in town are friggin’ wizards.

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