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tadamhicks t1_j24aoq1 wrote

Reply to comment by Eagle_Arm in UVM too expensive by Constant_Education_4

Sure, but middle management in large consulting firms also make $500k-$1m. Individual contributors can easily make over $300K and more. Software engineers I interview are asking for $200-300 out of college.

I think college gives you a path to that much easier than that outside of college. The other thing they’ve researched is life outcomes from people of education. Just like thinking isn’t only achieved in college, education can be had outside of college, but how many people pursue education on their own? I applaud those that do, and similarly having it rammed down your throat in college also doesn’t mean you’ll absorb it. At the end of the day, though, educated people make better decisions for themselves about life and have better life outcomes.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j24bsx9 wrote

Haha, ok $500-$1M for middle management.....and what percentage of college grads do you think are actually getting that? 1% of college grads, maybe and that's a pretty big maybe.

And asking for vs. getting are two different outcomes.

Both examples seem like some pulled out of ass numbers.

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tadamhicks t1_j24d0ev wrote

It’s not a direct correlation from college to middle management consulting jobs. I’m illustrating a point and there are a whole lot more of these jobs than you think.

There are also folks like my old boss with the PhD who started a moving company so he could kayak when the rivers were up. Or like the carpenter and ski patroller friend I know in Summit County.

You’re semi-wrong about the asking and getting. They’re not accepting my offers, lower than what they’re asking…and they’re ending up employed. The delta isn’t so great, either, to assume they’re not making stupid amounts of money for early-mid 20 year olds that can live anywhere they want.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j24pc1z wrote

You're illustrating a fake created point with no bearing on the outcome.

I'll also assume 99% of billionaires also have college degrees. That doesn't mean they are billionaires because of college.

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tadamhicks t1_j24qz08 wrote

I’d argue that they’re billionaires because they’re smart and educated. I’d also argue it’s much easier to obtain education when it’s your job to do so than a hobby in your spare time.

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Eagle_Arm t1_j24rosu wrote

And a college degree has nothing to do with that.

I'd also argue when people attend college, that's their job and it's not just a hobby, no different than a billionaire

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