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ratamadiddle t1_j0wmrrv wrote

Reply to comment by BudsKind802 in Upcoming changes in Delta Dental... curious how many dentists will drop as in network providers? by kittybellyfulloflies

It sucks because dentists aren’t willing to take a fair rate on their work which Delta works to pay.

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EMSSSSSS t1_j104yzb wrote

It’s not a fair rate if dentists aren’t willing to take it.

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ratamadiddle t1_j111dus wrote

Eh…so it isn’t robbery if someone doesn’t clean out the bank?

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EMSSSSSS t1_j112csb wrote

You are a plumber. Someone offers you $20 to do a job that normally you charge $100 for. You tell them to fuck off. Same situation here.

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ratamadiddle t1_j117esy wrote

Going to agree to disagree.

Not the same when the materials and work itself are the same as seen nationally yet are jacked up for pricing.

Essentially we shouldn’t be paying the “plumber” $350 for a job that even with materials and labor is at a national average a $200 or less job.

Perhaps who is told to buzz off should be adjusted.

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EMSSSSSS t1_j119bqt wrote

The price you pay a plumber will inevitably be a product of the competition. Vermont is a relatively rural state. Dentists, like physicians are typically more interested in living in urban areas that appeal to college educated professionals. Without increased pay, there is no incentive to move to and practice somewhere more rural. I am not saying there aren't dentists who are going to enjoy what VT has to offer, but there are far more who will enjoy urban life over VT, and you'll need to pay them more to come here. There is a reason why the highest paid physicians live in rural areas.

Vermont also does not have an instate dental school, thus there is not a lot of Vermonters who do decide to go to dental school, and there is no option to stay in your home state if you do.

Vermont also isn't exactly a cheap place to run a business either. Not that it's a bad thing, but it can explain the higher pricing.

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ratamadiddle t1_j11ew3k wrote

Passing the “incentive” to work here shouldn’t come on the backs of those who need basic health care needs. I’m fortunate enough to have insurance and decent health.

There are many in this state that a bill for a $350 filling, let alone a $1600+ crown would be debilitating.

Health care should not be treated like a commodity. It’s a human service.

I would wonder how this model of “incentive” could work for paying others in human service fields?

I’m sure educators, dispatchers, fire fighters, and police all would appreciate that “incentive” as well.

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EMSSSSSS t1_j14zqpo wrote

You are more than welcome to petition the state to be the ones to pay for said incentives. All of the above are paid by the state and unlike dentistry there is a huge shortage of above as they are not being paid what they should be paid in VT.

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RoyalAntelope9948 t1_j0ytaqg wrote

I've had DD since 1982. In fact I had double policies (my spouse and mine) and still had to pay for things that weren't covered well. Their payment rates have never increased with the cost of dental services. It's better than nothing but not by a whole lot. They are the main dental insurance for most all large employers. It's not a viable option to just go talk to HR. It's just another crappy insurance.

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