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murrly t1_j0z948r wrote

> Last winter, Gov. Phil Scott proposed spending $51 million in federal aid to expand cellphone service in Vermont, particularly in the rural areas where service is least reliable. Scott and Public Service Commissioner June Tierney said building 100 cellphone towers would help remote workers, the tourism industry and emergency responders, in particular. But lawmakers did not agree, and the proposal did not advance.

Why? How is this a bad thing in any way

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iamrockandroll1 t1_j10dxqh wrote

Those lawmakers who voted against should be voted out. It shouldn’t even need to be voted on. It’s a safety issue on rural mountain roads especially in the winter time. Put up towers everywhere.

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computaSaysYes t1_j12y8vk wrote

A Vermonter will be stopping to help you on that mountain road before you could reach your phone to call. We don't need coverage on every inch of land, especially not mountains of national forests. Mountains ≠ suburbs.

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AtomicWaffle420 t1_j12tp0x wrote

NIMBY-ism that's why. People want more towers, just not near them lmao.

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cynnamin_bun t1_j0zwb5x wrote

The article says that in Calais there was a proposal to build a tower but it was voted down, and the article presumes that this is because nobody wanted the tower near them. Perhaps a similar issue statewide?

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truckingon t1_j0ze55f wrote

Some possibilities: 100 ugly cell phone towers and the access roads needed to build and service them, ongoing subsidies to attract operators, other/better uses for $51 million.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j0zgktc wrote

> better uses for $51 million.

Heck they gave a shit ton to our CUD to bring out fiber and while yes they are very slowly doing so the monthly fees are insane! Over a hundred a month for 250/250 and what a load of shit 79.99 a month for 50/50!!!! Was hoping to switch from Starlink once we got fiber but nope fuck that.

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OrdinaryTension t1_j0zrlkd wrote

Starlink is $110 and with the current over-subscriptions, their rate has fallen to something around 65/15. 250/250 is still a much better deal.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j0zwgh7 wrote

Ya I keep hearing this not for me though. And how can 250/250 for over a hundred bucks be a good deal in any world for fiber? Fiduim is about 70 for a gig same with BTC. EVFiber is 134 for a gig way too much IMO and VTell is 39.95 right now for a gig. With the tax pay payer funds they have been getting they should pass it on.

And for the Starlink stuff just ran a test while making this reply 205/18 and here is the link before you call BS it's timestamped too.

https://www.speedtest.net/result/14100345895

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OrdinaryTension t1_j0zyaep wrote

I was seeing speeds around 75/20 when I cancelled starlink in August. Sometimes it would go up to maybe 120/20, but it depended on the time of day. For some unknown reason it would also drop out for a couple of minutes around 2pm each day, We get 40/20 from TMobile, it's more consistent and a lot cheaper.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j0zzhvy wrote

40/20 would kill me got 5 kids all with toys we need the bandwidth. Going on about a year now with Starlink no issues with slowing speeds at all. In fact it's has gotten a bit faster now. Sometime in the last few weeks it started spending a fair part of the day pointed more easterly instead of north. Getting to some unused sats over the Atlantic would be my guess.

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murrly t1_j0zkra1 wrote

If they were wind towers with cell towers attached would it make it better? /s

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truckingon t1_j0zlv58 wrote

I offered some possible reasons, not an opinion. I don't know if you can co-locate cell antennas and wind turbines; anyway, large-scale wind projects appear to be dead in Vermont.

I do have an opinion, though, the state should prioritize bringing broadband internet service over cable/fiber to rural areas way ahead of cell service.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j0zmviq wrote

I think the blades would cause interference of some type but anyways there are not too many here now and I think you are right about any future projects being dead. And the state/fed is subsidizing the heck out expansion but it should come with price caps or something. I mean as I wrote above 70 a month for 50/50 on fiber?? Whats the point can do better t-mobile home net or similar for less. Heck even DSL 80/20 is about 40 out this way.

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Loudergood t1_j11k98l wrote

I work for a company that had an access point on a wind tower and vibration was an issue.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j13jfit wrote

Interesting. I had always thought perhaps the blades would block the RF depending on the materials used but I can see this for sure. Thanks.

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