Submitted by totallymike t3_zqplct in vermont

I made /r/VTHolesWhoHateFun for you to moderate as you see fit. Hit me up and I’ll hand you the keys.

You’d better get there soon because this is the internet and it’s probably going to fill up with dogs soon

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ARealVermontar t1_j0z3l8z wrote

Dear person who dislikes the person who dislikes dogs,

I made /r/VTHolesWhoHatePeopleWhoHateFun for you to moderate as you see fit. Hit me up and I’ll hand you the keys.

You’d better get there soon because this is the internet and it’s probably going to fill up with people complaining about dogs soon

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Internal-Fudge8578 t1_j0z5f53 wrote

I’m resisting the urge to post a dog pic in that subreddit- they better hurry I can’t hold back for long.

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No-Menu-5104 t1_j0z5gea wrote

This is trashy. All sides. Cut it out.

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totallymike OP t1_j0z60mv wrote

I learned that there is a character limit on subreddits when I had to abbreviate Vermont to make mine fit, so unfortunately subreddits can’t recurse too deeply

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Cabin_Sandwich t1_j0z6ysg wrote

hmmm in my experience people critical of people who don't like dogs are usually assholes who don't realize that they made their dog an asshole and the other person actually just doesn't like assholes of any breed

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JerryKook t1_j0zchph wrote

I like dogs but they don't belong everywhere. I don't feel my self worth is based totally on my dog.

Dogs are like kids. Not everyone wants to interact or deal with other peoples kids/dogs.

I have no patience for people with poorly trained dogs. They tend to be oblivious to how poorly trained their dogs are and feel the need to get everyone to interact with their dogs. Yelling he is friendly only makes me resent them more.

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whaletacochamp t1_j0zo869 wrote

As a pretty big dog person, totally agree. My favorite thing to do when a dog is barreling toward my (on leash) dog and their stupid ass frantic owner is screaming that (why do you need to scream warn me of this fact if the dog is so perfect??) is to say "oh, well mine's not" and just stand there. It's doubly fun when they then get mad at ME. "Why do you have your dog out here if he's not friendly blah blah blah!"

My dog is friendly, but when he is on leash and settled and your little POS comes barreling at him out of nowhere, i neither blame him nor will reprimand him for standing his ground and putting your dog in its place. Little do they know if my dog was off leash he would just frolick and play (the eskimo way), but when he is on leash he's a bit more reactive.

Also if you need to bring your non-service dog into the grocery store in order to not have a panic attick you need more help than your toothless chihuahua can provide.

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whaletacochamp t1_j0zp5st wrote

Agreed. I have never not had a dog and have had multiple at some points. People are always surprised when they say "wow you're a big dog person!" and I'm like "the fuck I am!"

My dogs are dogs, not little prince/princesses that get treated like royalty and allowed to run the house. I don't keep them outside and I certainly do spoil them in some ways, but they are fucking dogs.

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whaletacochamp t1_j0zs05h wrote

No, it’s not. Using a poorly trained and poorly cared for dog as a band aid for your mental health meanwhile bringing it places where it’s not allowed and whatever risks are associated with that is neither good for you, nor the dog, nor society. Sorry it came across as brash, but it’s true. These people will literally destroy a dogs life for a temporary perceived improvement in their mental health meanwhile actually negatively impacting their overall mental health.

Just because I’m talking about mental health doesn’t mean what I’m saying is wrong or shouldn’t be said. It’s also not a dig at these people - they quite literally need more help than just the emotional companionship of a dog that is not trained to provide emotional support.

There are many people out there literally abusing their dogs in the name of mental health all the while detracting from actual service dogs.

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whaletacochamp t1_j100u0f wrote

Yup. Ours had a (kinda crazy) contract that we had to sign. Home inspection including making sure we had an adequate fence around our entire yard. It’s a bit over the top but I understand the why behind it and am not against it.

Honestly we live somewhere where a fence isn’t really feasible and I plan to always have him on leash/train him to be ok off leash on my own property….I had them come to my folks house to pass the inspection lol.

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Realistic_Law1226 t1_j103jow wrote

You didn't say poorly trained. You were making a blow towards people who have animals for anxiety/mental health etc and acting like they shouldn't, I'm sure half of the people do have medical treatment but still need their dog to support them and that may be the only support that they have in real life, as long as the dog is behaving and by their side there should be no issue.

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whaletacochamp t1_j107ia0 wrote

K. It’s pretty clear you just want to debate because I said something semi critical relating to mental health, so I’m not going to belabor this. But when I say a non-service dog I literally mean a dog that is not trained to do the job that this person is having it do, and not trained to be in general public 24/7. I don’t agree that the person likely still needs it. I’m sure they THINK that they need it, but personally knowing multiple people who fall under this umbrella I can confidently say that owning and caring for these animals and putting the pressure of this on the animals has led to more strife and anxiety than it has alleviated for them. And many MANY are using it as a stand in for actual treatment, which is incredibly sad.

In the end both the dog and the owner are worse off for it.

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somedudevt t1_j117wir wrote

If you need a service dog GET A FUCKING SERVICE DOG! But every pet is not that. Just because you call it a support animal does it make it so a service animal under ADA. If you feel you are disabled and qualify under ADA for a service animal, then there is a process. But just because you get a little sad or lonely, or don’t like people some days doesn’t mean you can bring Fido in the gricery store to put it’s wet nose on the produce and bark.

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here4fun1982 t1_j11y987 wrote

no one likes dogs who chase deer period they all should be shot

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random_vermonter t1_j125n28 wrote

I like cats but I feel attacked because I'm just not crazy about dogs.

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Astroisbestbio t1_j12i5nh wrote

Lots of off leash dogs around here. We have a lot of neighbors with chickens, and we have chickens. Our three dogs are either behind a tall fence or leashed and harnessed. Between the bears and other predators, and the neighborhood full of chickens, I can't understand why you would let your pup off leash. Not to mention being on a dirt road that is made primarily of ice at the moment, I'm always afraid of hitting one coming around a corner. I love dogs, I work with dogs, my dog is my life and I love my parents dogs dearly, but I'm not blind to the fact that they don't belong wild and off leash on a twisty road. Safety first, theirs, our chickens, and the safety of others.

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