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bobsizzle t1_j1a8hzo wrote

It depends where you end up. Closer to Burlington, rent is higher. You can commute though. Vermont is older. Girls down south are more fun. I rarely see cowboy boots and I've never seen anyone wear a cowboy hat. If you don't care about that stuff, and you care more about the politics, and can get over the Cold for half the year, Vermont is Nice. Summers are great. The cost of living will be higher. There are trade offs. It just depends on what's important to you. Generally speaking, Vermont is nice. It could be better though.

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Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j1bn5at wrote

You rarely see cowboy boots and you never see cowboy hats? That’s bizarre. It’s almost like we’re in the Northeast and not the South

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bobsizzle t1_j1bovgq wrote

Some people Don't know that. You see cowboy Boots and hats in the north west. its not just a southern thing. It's more prevalent then the bum style you see in Vermont.

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Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j1bq1w7 wrote

Well yeah I’d assume that people know there are also cowboys in the “Wild Wild West”. I don’t think anyone associates this area with cowboys. Why would it matter anyways? Such a strange thing to mention. This is a whole different region and culture.

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bobsizzle t1_j1brjbn wrote

He might dress like that and feel weird continuing to do so when no one else is. I consider small things when I move. it's a comment on culture. Not everyone knows what Vermont culture is. It's pretty low key. Up until recently, you would only hear about Vermont in shows taking place in NYC because they'd talk about skiing or vacations in Vermont.

And it's not even a wild West thing. Pretty much rural areas outside the northeast, you'll see cowboy Boots with some regularity. It's farm and ranch culture. Vermont is rural, but has a weird farm culture. More hippie, less cowboy. Kind of boring. Heck, doesn't even seem really all that hippieish anymore. More modern. I

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Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j1gs78p wrote

Ok, but not choosing to adapt to a place you moved to willingly is kinda weird. Did this person even research anything? And calling our style a “bum” style isn’t really a good thing. I get it we’re more laid back but winters are cold so wait until you need to go out in negative 15 degree weather and maybe you’ll understand.

I also don’t know how I’d categorize vermont culture, even though I was born and raised here. Nice but sarcastic and all that stuff. When I lived out west (in college) people got offended by my sarcasm but they learned quickly that the more I give you shit, the more I like you.

but I guess I’m not “as fun as southern girls” and I have a “bum style”. Maybe I’m being salty about that. And for the record, I’ve been collecting cowboy boots since I was in sixth grade and used to wear them all the time. I have some fryes but the majority are thrift finds and I’ve always loved them. Wanna know why I don’t wear them? They don’t work in the snow

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bobsizzle t1_j1gvn9i wrote

Bum style is pretty accurate. Just because it's cold doesn't mean you can't make an effort. When it's super Cold, you can layer or wear a parka. I do. I dress like a bum at home, but a little effort goes a long way in public. And it's not just winter. I see it all year. Of course not everyone, but it's growing. Look at old pictures and you see people wearing decent attire. Now you see people in pajamas at Walmart. Lots of slobs out there. Especially guys. Fat asses in stained tshirts and baggy sweatpants. I'll give girls a pass in pajamas. They usually try to make an effort.

I'm of course speaking in general terms, but southern girls are more fun lol. Laid back, like to party, don't mind getting dirty and sound as Purdy as a peach. But also try to look Good as much as possible. Maybe it's the cold, Maybe it's the culture. Vermont should share a lot in common with most other rural states, but it' doesn't. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

You might be a little more unique than others in Vermont. I don't know a lot of people who own a pair of boots, let alone multiple. You can still wear boots for half a year. That's what I do. And during winter, I wear other types of insulated boots with good vibram soles, but I only wear snow boots when I'm shoveling. There actually are cowboy boots suited for winter, but they don't match well with my parka. And I like exotic leathers that don't do well in the wet Snow. Snake skin especially. But they do with denim jackets. I'm not going to adapt to Vermont's style. I like my style and not looking like everyone else. Some people like to fit in though and feel awkward if they don't. I've lived all over the country. New England was just one of the last few regions I hadn't called home, so I picked Vermont. Almost every place has something good about it. Vermont has its charm. And not quite as gossipy as down south. Or if it is, they're better at hiding it. Down south, there's always someone up in your business.

Don't be salty though. :) What's fun to me might just be a skank to someone else. One that happens to like shotguns. To be fair, Vermont girls are probably fun in their own way. Maybe I don't know enough of them to make that judgment. And Fry Boots are good boots. And I love a good thrift find. I've picked up a number of gently used caimen, python and ostrich boots for a song. Some people buy a pair, wear them once to go to a show or wedding and decide maybe cowboy boots are not for them. It's cool. Someone has to wear Chelsea boots.

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Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j1gwbkz wrote

So the slobs at Walmart are what you’re comparing us to, who are people too, but that’s not our whole state… ( people go out in actual jackets and I don’t know who goes out in a “parka” haha once it’s negative 15 you’ll be changing your mind about a parka). You’ll want an actual jacket.

Also do you want to talk about attire? I can probably suggest anything you want. Gothic? Victorian? Grunge? 90s pop? Don’t worry honey I’ve got you covered. Let me know!

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bobsizzle t1_j1gximh wrote

Yes. Customers at Walmart. And it's not just winter. It's pretty much year around. People don't seem to take as much pride in their appearance as they used To. Put on a clean shirt. Comb your hair. You don't have to dress like you're homeless. You'd be surprised by how often people don't seem to even wear deodorant. It's gross. Natural deodorant has come a Long way. You can try to make a living and still have the ability to not look like you don't bathe. There are so many places to get free clothes that aren't torn, if you're that poor. It's just that many people don't take pride in how they look. Regardless of fashion choices. Make an effort.

I know what negative 15 feels like BTW. I've lived in Vermont for a few years and other places that are just as cold. I still make an effort to not stink or look like I live under a bridge.

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Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j1hdup9 wrote

Can’t wait to wear my fanciest clothes out soon and also take a shower! Did you guys know that were stinky and we’re basically hobos?

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