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happyonthehill802 t1_j3cb8gl wrote

Carpenter, plumber, electrician, find job in the trades and you'll probably do okay


TillPsychological351 t1_j3cfrrb wrote

Huge need for all of these in the Northeast Kingdom.


happyonthehill802 t1_j3cgidi wrote

No doubt, im swinging a hammer for more money than i could make as an auto tech, which is what i went to school for and have the most experience in.


whaletacochamp t1_j3dhwvt wrote

After you learn the skills necessary which takes years. But, you do get paid to learn. Just not big bucks.


happyonthehill802 t1_j3dk34e wrote

I mean thats kind of how life works right? Either you aquire skills through experience, schooling, or both. The trades seems to pay better than most industries, even for inexperienced workers. We had unskilled labor handing us tools all summer for 20/hr...compared the most other unskilled labor in my area at 15-18.


ikilledmystepdad OP t1_j3cgmw0 wrote

You know of any good unions in the state?


happyonthehill802 t1_j3cj8pq wrote

Edit: guess we do have unions. i subcontract. Investment in tools was minimal since i had most of them from building my first two houses.

If i were to do it again id go pull wire for an electrician and work on getting certified. Easy clean work, lowest investment as far as tooling goes.


sound_of_apocalypto t1_j3cmq6v wrote

Post office is hiring.


BuilderThat476 t1_j3dna8t wrote

Yep and depending on the position starting pay is around $20/hr (for clerks at least, usually less for mail handlers).

You start in a temporary position but they really do want to convert you to a regular position, so long as you're a good worker and make it past your 90 days you're in. Includes health benefits at the start, multiple yearly raises, and once you convert to a regular you get like a $4/hr raise and additional benefits as well as those yearly raises. Protected by a union and dues are minimal. Ability to transfer crafts if you don't like where you start out or get bored, and the ability to transfer states and locations if you ever want to move.

Heads up the hiring process is long and it may seem like they ignored your application for a while. I got lucky with starting my orientation about a month and a half after I originally applied but I've had other coworkers say it took like 3 months.


jarvisk2 t1_j3e5sfw wrote

I do not recommend the post office unless you're okay with having 2 days off a month and able to travel out of state for a week for the training


Loudergood t1_j3en673 wrote

They don't train in Essex anymore? That's a shame.


jarvisk2 t1_j3eovag wrote

Starts in Essex, but then you need to spend a week in NH or Maine.


PoetOriginal4350 t1_j3da6sp wrote

Did you actually kill your step-dad? Because if you're a convicted criminal, that knight limit your job opportunities XD

Definitely look into remote jobs. The VA has remote HR opportunities. That might be sweet!


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3coxle wrote

I had a friend who worked at Ben and Jerry’s (in the store)… they said they loved it and everyone who worked there was nice. The pay was great and they got a free pint often enough that they were sick of ice cream pretty quickly. This was pre covid and not in your department though, so I guess my comment is irrelevant. But you could always try it out!


browsing_around t1_j3cczfq wrote

I’m blanking on the name right now(it’s changed so many times over the years (Nynex, bell Atlantic, Consolidated, etc.) but my step father and brother work for the company that installs and maintains the phone and internet lines in Vermont and sometimes NH. Good paying job, they train you and have several areas you can work in (home installation, fiber, working on actual lines on poles).

Edit: it’s Fairpoint now.


vtddy t1_j3d0lp6 wrote

Vtel is a Southern Vermont company that only covers a specific area


browsing_around t1_j3d2q8e wrote

Well then maybe it’s something to do with the Union. My little brother started in Vermont but now works out of Manchester, NH.


vtddy t1_j3d0xcq wrote

GE in Rutland, Green mountain power, state of Vermont.


5teerPike t1_j3dy9g9 wrote

Dentistry. Vermont needs dentists.


ikilledmystepdad OP t1_j3dz1dd wrote

Unfortunately I don’t have the credentials for that


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soggy_donut t1_j3ggazn wrote

If a company can’t retain employees over times, that’s a red flag.


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soggy_donut t1_j3h8zo9 wrote

If they are going to lay tons of people off before you, they will keep laying people off for a long time after you’ve came and went


lanphear7 t1_j3egar7 wrote

Cabot Creamery, any of the ski resorts, any sort of trade. Need a little more info for anything more


ikilledmystepdad OP t1_j3eh37u wrote

I’ll keep it in mind. Currently I’m a first class pipe/steam fitter with brazing certs


Careless-Tumbleweed6 t1_j3g3md7 wrote

If you can pass the background check, don't mind being fingerprinted, and can deal with the chaos + lack of vacations when a lot of your coworkers will have time off, every school district I know of is looking for maintenance/custodial work right now. I don't know the exact details of each district, and I assume they're all slightly different, but pay should start around $18-20 an hour, should be $1 raise a year. Shifts are usually 7 am to 3 pm, 3 pm to 10 pm.

If you're qualified for things like plumbing, electrician, etc. You won't have any issue finding work. Those are always in demand.


Either-Masterpiece62 t1_j3f2pt3 wrote

Novonordisk West Lebanon NH. If you can deal with a structured setting of SOPs and paperwork


yolosaurusrex69 t1_j3dr68q wrote

What’s decent pay in your mind?


ikilledmystepdad OP t1_j3dw9h9 wrote

I make 28 and some change rn in Mississippi so something around that


Twombls t1_j3emqb5 wrote

Unfortunately a lot of companies in Vermont are out of touch and pay way less than that. Because of our "low cost of living" its not low.

I would reccomend haggling pretty hard with employers on salary. And walk away from anyone that tries to justify low pay because of our cost of living.

Keep in mind workers are very much in demand in VT right now. And companies will pay higher if you give them a hard time.


yolosaurusrex69 t1_j3eg9xn wrote

Might take you a few years to get back to that, depending on what your experience and skill set is. Most skilled trade work around here starts around 20-25/hr as far as I’ve seen.


soggy_donut t1_j3gheok wrote

Something I can afford cheapest rent and food. Pay for car insurance and have a phone to communicate and maintain contact with my coworkers.


DasWheever t1_j3caxxi wrote

Unforch, no. And down here in SW VT, they *literally* think $20/hr is "the big bucks". Insanity.

I would think B&J would probably pay well, relatively speaking. I wish you luck!


quinnbeast t1_j3cdrlw wrote

Ok, look. The internet has ruined the English language, but I’m NOT gonna sit idly by and let “unforch” become a thing.


DasWheever t1_j3eivde wrote

*That's* what you take away from my post?

If I rolled my eyes any harder I'd break my own fucking neck.


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3cpgd7 wrote

Unforch? HAHA. Bro are you ok? Also, 20 dollars an hour is pretty good, relatively speaking. You could become a server like me and make about 50 bucks an hour, but god fucking forbid anyone become a server… how lowly!


Twombls t1_j3enj1z wrote

20 an hour is barely a living wage in vermont right now. Anyone making under 50k is struggling.


Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3eyk14 wrote

Unforch is now going to be one of those things I start saying ironically, but it will slowly creep it’s way into my vocabulary.


Ok_Slide_4626 t1_j3d1ru7 wrote

Stop lying no server is making $50/hr lol


Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3djidd wrote

Dude are you high? I made well over that bartending at a dive bar. Haha


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3dkkw4 wrote

Yeah when it’s busy I can make 250 in a five hour shift which is exactly 50 an hour lol. And that’s lunch. This dude doesn’t know shit haha


DasWheever t1_j3eil5g wrote

Dude. Have lost your mind? I believe you make $50/hr waiting and bring home 100k like I believe my grandpa has tits. You're literally just making shit up.

After taxes $20/hr is ~13/hr. Where the fuck are you going to live bringing home $26k a year? Bullshit.

If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation and cola, it would be $27/hr.

I was making more at age 12 in 1973 when the minimum wage was $2.75/hr than I was making at my last "good" job.


Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3eoxbg wrote

I mean, before kids I bartended on top of my day job. I’d pull 3-400 a night three nights a week, claim the minimum and still have my day job. But I’d also pulled a lot of shitty shifts to get there. And yeah, that bought me my house.

So how your grandpas tits? Wouldn’t be the first one to have some so I’m not to shocked.


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3f0q0b wrote

Go work in a restaurant… it’s not fucking easy my dude


DasWheever t1_j3f80vb wrote

My dude, I know that. Restaurant work is hard as shit, exhausting, and rarely pays $50/hr.


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3faur0 wrote

Like I said, Christmas week and President’s week are easily 50/hour. Along with leaf peeper season. This fall was wild! Unfortunately I’m not making shit right now because there’s no snow so it sucks… but a normal winter season would be at least 30 an hour. That’s in cash. I have a 401k so my paycheck isn’t really anything but I’m not sure what else you want to argue about


Twombls t1_j3enq9o wrote

I'd believe it. Most bartenders I know in chittenden were able to buy houses.


Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3dg1qz wrote

During Christmas week or presidents week you can. Usually it’s more like 30 or 35. But in fine dining you can absolutely make more than 50 an hour


Twombls t1_j3endb5 wrote

You are being downvoted but thats the truth


DasWheever t1_j3eiol7 wrote

All you people downvoting me have drunk the prosperity gospel koolaid. Seriously.


riggie33 t1_j3ctufu wrote

$20/hr isn’t good enough now? WTF people.


ReasonableLiving5958 t1_j3d0lhu wrote

20 an hour is basically worthless in Vermont, especially for single people. You clearly do not understand how dire things are in Vermont for the poor and even middle class.


DasWheever t1_j3eggeh wrote

20 an hour is pretty much worthless anywhere.


DasWheever t1_j3eg42m wrote

Yeah, Minimum wage should go back to $.25. That's what people get for not being born rich and adhering to prosperity gospel.

What the hell is wrong with you? Are you rich? Or a poor republican happy to lick your boss's boots for pennies? DO you not realize that the more money the working class has, the richer EVERYONE will be, including the richies? Do you remember the '50s?

Minimum wage was supposed to proved a dignified living, minimal, but dignified FOR ONE WORKING PERSON WITH A FAMILY; had it kept pace with COLA and inflation, it would be TWENTY-SEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR, now. And the funny thing is, even THAT is marginal for a single-income household. Decent place to live, functional car, health care for a family? $27/hr doesn't cut it.

I was making more when I was 12 years old in 1973 when the minimum wage was $2.75, than I did at my last "good" job.

You. People. Are. Insane.


riggie33 t1_j3f35lf wrote

Keep believing your delusions but it ain’t ever happening. Feelings do not equal reality. I stared working in high school and worked my way up from minimum wage over a long long time. Not born with money and am not “rich” now. I lived in a lot of shitty apartments and drove beater cars for many years. I also understood that you gotta work your way up to a reasonable living….AND that I was not entitled to it just for being born.


soggy_donut t1_j3gh0us wrote

What’s the point of working a job for 40 hours a week if you can’t afford rent and food after it’s done?

Personally, I’d rather just go on welfare then be part of the working poor. Get more of my time back and still be poor.

I know you will hate this comment, but I don’t care about anybodys business if it won’t benefit me. Life is too short for that bullshit.

Also if anybody says “nobody wants to work” for why they are short staffed, if you raise pay, you will get people.

I have a great job now but if McDonald’s paid 150k. I’d quit my job tomorrow.


riggie33 t1_j3h0dmd wrote

There only so much “free” money to go around. Welfare isn’t forever.


soggy_donut t1_j3h4a84 wrote

Well there’s even less incentive to work if you are basically going to be in the same spot.

What’s the point of working 40 hours a week if you can’t even afford to exist?


riggie33 t1_j3h7ftj wrote

That’s the mindset of a welfare lifer. One that will never, ever get anywhere with that sort of attitude.


soggy_donut t1_j3h8ji0 wrote

It wouldn’t be if wages were high enough to entice the worker who would see it increases their quality of life.

Nobody wants to work and not even be able to survive.

If welfare offers me a better life then working for an amount I can’t even survive on. I’ll choose welfare every time.


bigtimesauce t1_j3cyv9b wrote

$24/hr is about where minimum wage should be, $15/hr was that number about 10-12 years ago


riggie33 t1_j3d1z5b wrote

So you think $50k/yr is a reasonable minimum wage? There’d be no business left in VT or most other states if that were the case.


DasWheever t1_j3egcbm wrote

If a company exists because it shafts its workers, CAPITALISM says it need to go out of business.


riggie33 t1_j3f3sok wrote

Businesses will just adapt and automate needing less workers. At some point there won’t be any jobs at all and a whole lot of unemployed people. $40k/yr is a whole lot more than zero. Markets will correct from the whole pandemic deal.


DasWheever t1_j3f7rac wrote

Yes, but without customers, or buyers, there will no businesses. The wealthy can only by so many rolls of toilet paper.


bigtimesauce t1_j3d2u8x wrote

Yeah, I do. Some businesses would fail, others, that don’t rely on suppressed wages, would not.