DasWheever t1_j3caxxi wrote
Unforch, no. And down here in SW VT, they *literally* think $20/hr is "the big bucks". Insanity.
I would think B&J would probably pay well, relatively speaking. I wish you luck!
quinnbeast t1_j3cdrlw wrote
Ok, look. The internet has ruined the English language, but I’m NOT gonna sit idly by and let “unforch” become a thing.
DasWheever t1_j3eivde wrote
*That's* what you take away from my post?
If I rolled my eyes any harder I'd break my own fucking neck.
quinnbeast t1_j3epdfq wrote
That would be unfortunate.
DasWheever t1_j3f87dr wrote
Gotta give you an up vote for that. That was spot on.
Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3cpgd7 wrote
Unforch? HAHA. Bro are you ok? Also, 20 dollars an hour is pretty good, relatively speaking. You could become a server like me and make about 50 bucks an hour, but god fucking forbid anyone become a server… how lowly!
Twombls t1_j3enj1z wrote
20 an hour is barely a living wage in vermont right now. Anyone making under 50k is struggling.
Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3eyk14 wrote
Unforch is now going to be one of those things I start saying ironically, but it will slowly creep it’s way into my vocabulary.
Ok_Slide_4626 t1_j3d1ru7 wrote
Stop lying no server is making $50/hr lol
Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3djidd wrote
Dude are you high? I made well over that bartending at a dive bar. Haha
Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3dkkw4 wrote
Yeah when it’s busy I can make 250 in a five hour shift which is exactly 50 an hour lol. And that’s lunch. This dude doesn’t know shit haha
DasWheever t1_j3eil5g wrote
Dude. Have lost your mind? I believe you make $50/hr waiting and bring home 100k like I believe my grandpa has tits. You're literally just making shit up.
After taxes $20/hr is ~13/hr. Where the fuck are you going to live bringing home $26k a year? Bullshit.
If the minimum wage had kept up with inflation and cola, it would be $27/hr.
I was making more at age 12 in 1973 when the minimum wage was $2.75/hr than I was making at my last "good" job.
Outrageous-Outside61 t1_j3eoxbg wrote
I mean, before kids I bartended on top of my day job. I’d pull 3-400 a night three nights a week, claim the minimum and still have my day job. But I’d also pulled a lot of shitty shifts to get there. And yeah, that bought me my house.
So how your grandpas tits? Wouldn’t be the first one to have some so I’m not to shocked.
Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3f0q0b wrote
Go work in a restaurant… it’s not fucking easy my dude
DasWheever t1_j3f80vb wrote
My dude, I know that. Restaurant work is hard as shit, exhausting, and rarely pays $50/hr.
Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3faur0 wrote
Like I said, Christmas week and President’s week are easily 50/hour. Along with leaf peeper season. This fall was wild! Unfortunately I’m not making shit right now because there’s no snow so it sucks… but a normal winter season would be at least 30 an hour. That’s in cash. I have a 401k so my paycheck isn’t really anything but I’m not sure what else you want to argue about
Twombls t1_j3enq9o wrote
I'd believe it. Most bartenders I know in chittenden were able to buy houses.
Formal_Coyote_5004 t1_j3dg1qz wrote
During Christmas week or presidents week you can. Usually it’s more like 30 or 35. But in fine dining you can absolutely make more than 50 an hour
Twombls t1_j3endb5 wrote
You are being downvoted but thats the truth
DasWheever t1_j3eiol7 wrote
All you people downvoting me have drunk the prosperity gospel koolaid. Seriously.
riggie33 t1_j3ctufu wrote
$20/hr isn’t good enough now? WTF people.
ReasonableLiving5958 t1_j3d0lhu wrote
20 an hour is basically worthless in Vermont, especially for single people. You clearly do not understand how dire things are in Vermont for the poor and even middle class.
DasWheever t1_j3eggeh wrote
20 an hour is pretty much worthless anywhere.
DasWheever t1_j3eg42m wrote
Yeah, Minimum wage should go back to $.25. That's what people get for not being born rich and adhering to prosperity gospel.
What the hell is wrong with you? Are you rich? Or a poor republican happy to lick your boss's boots for pennies? DO you not realize that the more money the working class has, the richer EVERYONE will be, including the richies? Do you remember the '50s?
Minimum wage was supposed to proved a dignified living, minimal, but dignified FOR ONE WORKING PERSON WITH A FAMILY; had it kept pace with COLA and inflation, it would be TWENTY-SEVEN DOLLARS AN HOUR, now. And the funny thing is, even THAT is marginal for a single-income household. Decent place to live, functional car, health care for a family? $27/hr doesn't cut it.
I was making more when I was 12 years old in 1973 when the minimum wage was $2.75, than I did at my last "good" job.
You. People. Are. Insane.
riggie33 t1_j3f35lf wrote
Keep believing your delusions but it ain’t ever happening. Feelings do not equal reality. I stared working in high school and worked my way up from minimum wage over a long long time. Not born with money and am not “rich” now. I lived in a lot of shitty apartments and drove beater cars for many years. I also understood that you gotta work your way up to a reasonable living….AND that I was not entitled to it just for being born.
soggy_donut t1_j3gh0us wrote
What’s the point of working a job for 40 hours a week if you can’t afford rent and food after it’s done?
Personally, I’d rather just go on welfare then be part of the working poor. Get more of my time back and still be poor.
I know you will hate this comment, but I don’t care about anybodys business if it won’t benefit me. Life is too short for that bullshit.
Also if anybody says “nobody wants to work” for why they are short staffed, if you raise pay, you will get people.
I have a great job now but if McDonald’s paid 150k. I’d quit my job tomorrow.
riggie33 t1_j3h0dmd wrote
There only so much “free” money to go around. Welfare isn’t forever.
soggy_donut t1_j3h4a84 wrote
Well there’s even less incentive to work if you are basically going to be in the same spot.
What’s the point of working 40 hours a week if you can’t even afford to exist?
riggie33 t1_j3h7ftj wrote
That’s the mindset of a welfare lifer. One that will never, ever get anywhere with that sort of attitude.
soggy_donut t1_j3h8ji0 wrote
It wouldn’t be if wages were high enough to entice the worker who would see it increases their quality of life.
Nobody wants to work and not even be able to survive.
If welfare offers me a better life then working for an amount I can’t even survive on. I’ll choose welfare every time.
bigtimesauce t1_j3cyv9b wrote
$24/hr is about where minimum wage should be, $15/hr was that number about 10-12 years ago
riggie33 t1_j3d1z5b wrote
So you think $50k/yr is a reasonable minimum wage? There’d be no business left in VT or most other states if that were the case.
DasWheever t1_j3egcbm wrote
If a company exists because it shafts its workers, CAPITALISM says it need to go out of business.
riggie33 t1_j3f3sok wrote
Businesses will just adapt and automate needing less workers. At some point there won’t be any jobs at all and a whole lot of unemployed people. $40k/yr is a whole lot more than zero. Markets will correct from the whole pandemic deal.
DasWheever t1_j3f7rac wrote
Yes, but without customers, or buyers, there will no businesses. The wealthy can only by so many rolls of toilet paper.
bigtimesauce t1_j3d2u8x wrote
Yeah, I do. Some businesses would fail, others, that don’t rely on suppressed wages, would not.
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