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Bibliophiliac1892 t1_j3e6cne wrote

I suggest New York State or elsewhere. Vermont is already struggling to employ and house its current population.

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tootsandladders t1_j3eao87 wrote

Everyone is struggling to house their population. I’m not going to be a tax on any jobs or services. I am totally self sustaining, want to add to the culture, help in any way at that I’m welcome and know how to respect the land and the people of Vermont.

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Twombls t1_j3el1we wrote

Yeah but vt is struggling bad. I have Many freinds rendered homless from people "escaping covid" or "dropping everything and moving to vt"

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somedudevt t1_j3evrel wrote

It’s fucking crazy. I’m a hardcore liberal, and I am amazed at the total lack of understanding and empathy in these over privileged liberals coming from other states and displacing people here.

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Mikkikon t1_j3fbibn wrote

Vermont is still cheaper than CT, MA, and many other places in NE. They're just looking for a better quality of life, not trying to displace anyone. That sucks though.

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somedudevt t1_j3g7jvo wrote

And that’s fine, but why does the better life have to be somewhere other than where they are? It’s a free country so they can do what they want, but EVERY blue voter that leaves a red or purple state makes that state worse. It further erodes the accountability of the leaders there. So they may find a better life here, but at the cost of making things worse where they are coming from.

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Mikkikon t1_j3gug1v wrote

I get that and agree to some extent, but I don’t think politics is the main reason why people are coming (or that red states are all more poorly managed than blue ones, for that matter). People want to live near the mountains and natural beauty and somewhere less crowded, or maybe they’re fleeing natural disasters. Drive up 91 in Vermont and it looks like a ghost town. Drive down to Mass and CT and it’s gridlock. It seems like the state should be able to accommodate a few more people without hurting (maybe even helping) the existing population, unless policy is just really bad.

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somedudevt t1_j3ji2ia wrote

Well if you want to initiate the process of seizing the large tracts of land that are vacant in the state, cutting them, and subdividing them into suburbia, then I guess that’s an idea to fix the problem. I’m more of the mind that Vermont is beautiful BECAUSE it’s not Massachusetts or New York.

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random_vermonter t1_j3fvpza wrote

Everyone says that and then they move to Vermont and end up being a burden anyway.

People are serious when they say there's a housing shortage for those who grew up in Vermont their whole lives as well as everyone else.

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