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gunnyglock t1_j3qmhoi wrote

1000sf, $0, free timber that I cut and split myself. 72

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YourAverageCracker t1_j3sp2wq wrote

Well not free, your time is worth something. But I'm jealous, wish I had a wood stove or furnace

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gunnyglock t1_j3ssixk wrote

As I always tell my wife, my time is worthless 😁 you are correct though, it did take time but I look at it more as I'm paying myself, rather than paying the oil company or electric company.

I've been burning red oak, it breaks down to about 178 gallons of heating fuel per cord. I can buck, split and stack a cord in ~2 hours. At $4.62/gallon, I'm 'paying' myself ~$420/hour (lest the fuel/consumables for the saw and splitter), significantly more than I make at my day job.

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eloquinees_husband t1_j3w35w2 wrote

It's time spent in the woods exercising, it's thoroughly enjoyable to most people who do it. Not everything is relatable to dollars, but if you must, I can certainly think of less lucrative activities we all engage with every day.

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eloquinees_husband t1_j3w21g0 wrote

1200 sqft, $0, same setup. I even get a free membership to exercise in the forest gym out of it. Temps between 82 in the evening to 68 when we wake up.

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o08 t1_j3qocrv wrote

Geo (all electric house) gmp bill $199. No other fuel/wood burned. Avg temp 67. About 2000 sq ft.

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tryflin09 t1_j3qqy4b wrote

This makes me really think I’m doing something wrong with my 2000sqf house and paying 500 minimum/mo. 65-68 during the day and have google nest go to eco mode at night except for our bedroom. And I’m in a buyers program for the propane.

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tailofthedragon t1_j3rub4q wrote

Are you heating with hot air or hot water? And what type of equipment? I.e. high efficiency(vented/exhausts with some kind of pvc) or standard efficiency(vents/exhausts with some kind of metal pipe)

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tryflin09 t1_j3rz4g0 wrote

There are copper pipes running out of the furnace. And as far as I understand it (I’m a millennial and this is my first house so… I don’t) we have base board heating that I think has water running through it. We don’t have any hot air blowing out of any vents or anything if that also helps

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JaimeGordonLannister t1_j3suduy wrote

I have baseboard water heating running on propane as well. At 65 downstairs, 63 upstairs, I'm running around $150-200/mo so far this year on average for the propane. So your price doesn't sound totally crazy. Around 2000sf as well.

My house is relatively well insulated (redone in the last decade), albeit with lots of windows and old bones. If you own, consider improving your windows and insulation -- at $500+/mo, I suspect the improvements will pay for themselves quite quickly.

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tryflin09 t1_j3t0pa1 wrote

The house is actually relatively new. Built in 2007. And from what I can tell pretty well insulated. If we don’t open the windows in the summer time it gets so cold you have to wear pants and we don’t have AC. Guess I should have someone come look at this

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Loudergood t1_j3yvm2g wrote

Smell around your tank, I had a leak last month, it probably cost me $400..

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tryflin09 t1_j3zqueo wrote

Hard to smell because it’s buried under ground but I’ll give it a shot. Called the propane company and they said it’s time for a service.

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Loudergood t1_j3zubyh wrote

Mine is buried too but something up top wasn't quite tight enough

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chickens6 t1_j414ai7 wrote

Unfortunately built in 2007 doesn't guarantee good insulation. Consider having HEAT Squad or Efficiency Vermont come and do an energy audit.

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tryflin09 t1_j4184ya wrote

That’s the advice we needed! Didn’t know something like this exists

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CancelCultAntifaLol t1_j3qtm6n wrote

Wow, I thought my energy bills were bad. We have a forced draft heater on natural gas in Burlington. Our bill in December was $127/mo through Vermont Gas. 72ccf. We also had $77 for electric, which runs the fan, but I assume that’s a small fraction of our electrical usage. Our home is a 1120 sq foot half of a duplex.

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Kitchen_Nail_6779 t1_j3r0xyi wrote

Heat pump with solar. $0 kept house at 68 all day and night - 1500 sq ft.

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JaimeGordonLannister t1_j3suxr1 wrote

Mind sharing your heat pump and solar setups? How cold does it usually get at night where you are? Any battery to help with the long nights?

$0 is very impressive in the northern hemisphere with no backup heat source, based on my knowledge. Sounds like you're living with the setup I want!

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Kitchen_Nail_6779 t1_j3vsqrw wrote

It's a VT subreddit so, as you can assume, I'm in VT. Same temp as anyone else in this state. I don't have a battery, and haven't done much research on them, but I was always under the impression they were like a generator and only used when you lose power. I'd love to be educated if I am wrong about that.

And, I do still have my forced hot air furnace in the house but am actively looking to get that and the oil tank removed.

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zarnov t1_j3tfz3l wrote

Same size house, also solar, also heat pump. Our electric is $25, basically GMP minimum charge. But we use 2 cords of wood to make the house a little more more toasty in the morning/evening. Granted, the solar was A LOT. The heat pump is incredibly efficient tho, for example, 20 degrees outside, heat set at 70, after everyone went to bed, our total electricity usage was less than 1 kw per hour.

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East-Letter3972 t1_j3rntqp wrote

670 a month on budget payment plan…. Every month. Propane. It’s insane we pay between 6,000 and 8,000 a year and go through roughly 3,000 gallons for a 2,500 sq ft old 1840 farmhouse. Doing an energy audit next year

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brandoncdubs t1_j3skuum wrote

Yeesh. Do you have old, drafty windows? Our houses sound almost identical (1823 here). Replaced every window in our house and saw our oil bill drop ~40%. Still thinking of spray-foaming our dingy old basement for some added help, but the windows alone were a huge savings, especially last year when oil was over $6/gallon.

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East-Letter3972 t1_j3sv20h wrote

They aren’t super old, most of them are double pane but there are tons of them, plus French doors and big windows. I think there is little to no insulation in most of the house too. It’s a long sprawling house that’s been added onto like a lot of New England and just loads of heat loss.

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BrittaVT t1_j3tif3y wrote

We're hoping that adding insulation to the basement ceiling will help.

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BrittaVT t1_j3thzds wrote

This! This is us. Same size, age, & propane. Who will do your audit? We even use our wood stove to supplement for dry warmth.

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East-Letter3972 t1_j3tjps3 wrote

I’m researching that now. I’m glad I’m not the only one with this problem. I can’t believe how little some ppl in this thread are paying / how much I am in comparison haha.

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pils-nerd t1_j3q9882 wrote

Electric with solar via heat pump and heavily supplemented by wood stove in the living room. Electric is approximately $200/mo. in the winter for a 2k sq/ft home set to about 66* downstairs, 62* upstairs when occupied. Wood usage is about 2 cords/year for "free" harvested and hand split off the property.

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zarnov t1_j3teq8a wrote

200 even though you have solar?

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pils-nerd t1_j3ujc4y wrote

Yeah, it's not great in the winter since we run the heat pump plus electric (heat pump) hot water, but during summer our electric is close to zero.

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Careful_Square1742 t1_j3qf8sr wrote

natural gas - $65 for heat and hot water in a 1500 square foot house at 66 during the day and 60 at night

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Check_Affectionate t1_j3qlwjc wrote

I am the same size and heat but spent 115 last month. I've got to keep closing off the side rooms and turn down my thermostat a bit. My temps are more like 63-67,

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Careful_Square1742 t1_j3qmxmf wrote

lots of variables - insulation, window/door seals/efficiency, furnace or boiler and efficiency of either, wind/solar exposure.

I'm lucky to be on natural gas - I burned 31 CCF last month, which is 3,214,700 btu

that's 35 gallons of propane @ $3.05/gal = $107

that's 23 gallons of #2 fuel oil @ $4.34/gal = $100

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thisoneisnotasbad t1_j3qg0uc wrote

Heat pump and pellet stove.

1800 sq ft.

Heat pump: $125 Pellets: $100

$225 total to keep the whole house at 70.

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CorrectFall6257 t1_j3qyjm6 wrote

I've been in the NEK for the last 5 years. I burn approximately 400 gallons yearly on home heating oil in my 1500 Sq ft cape cabin built in 2006 with a system 2000 water boiler. I have radiant in my foundation. My thermostat is set at 70. I'm a member of the Hilltop Buyer's program using Irving Energy. Current rack price is $3.66 a gallon.

My average daily energy cost for the month of December $2.67 using 12 kwh through VELCO. I love the smarthub app.

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8valvegrowl t1_j3rgnkp wrote

Woodstove (Hearthstone Green Mountain 40)/Multizone mini split (Fujitsu Halcyon, 4-zones, 1 36K compressor).

I use ~ 2 cords of wood per year.

1500 sq ft

Approximately $150/mo between the two sources, keeping the house around 70-75. This will go down as my wood harvest finally starts to catch up...I've had to buy wood these past two years since it's a new build.

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Relevant_Thought_499 t1_j3s8w9r wrote

$1200.00 for 200 gal.of fuel oil and being on social security don't give me a hole lot money to live on

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Puretest t1_j3q1o8a wrote

Use wood. 5 cords at $300/cord. Southern VT.

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Enough_Camel2650 t1_j3qk5yr wrote

You used 5 chords last month!??

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j3qnx7d wrote

It's easy in a month heck in just a few min I can use an A, A-, F, G, C, D etc:)

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Enough_Camel2650 t1_j3qo636 wrote

I use a wood boiler & used maybe a chord…potentially two & that’s heats the radiant floor in the 3 bay garage, whole house & all the hot water

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E123334 t1_j3q94ji wrote

VT Gas, just under $200 for comfortable temperature in a modest house.

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Real-Pierre-Delecto2 t1_j3qnq3h wrote

Pellet boiler for heat and HW. 4500sqf with lots of air space 68deg constant. About 1 ton of pellets per month at 310 per ton as it has been pretty warm. Normal jan and feb I could use two per month.

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wut_the_phuck t1_j3qx601 wrote

Paid $0 with a wood stove (cut my own wood) and my house is around 1000sq ft. I keep it around 70 degrees.

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AverageMean5010 t1_j3r0fyd wrote

South Central Vermont, 1600 sqft home. Kept between 69-72 during the day, 65-67 at night

  • half cord of seconds $150
  • 16 gal of LP @ $3.43 = $55 total heating roughly $205
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ToeLegitimate5685 t1_j3r69x7 wrote

$200x 4 cords gets me through the winter. Hearthstone Heritage, 1800sqft. 90° in the kitchen and 68° in the back bedroom.

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mmartino03 t1_j3rc8yg wrote

We've got a 2400 sq foot home. Top floor is heated by a pellet stove and works out to $100/month. We also have propane for the radiant floors on the lower level which works about to about $250/month. We keep it about 70 degrees.

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jasmeantoast t1_j3rqluv wrote

1200 sq ft home. All electric. 68 degrees. GMP is $321/month budget billing.

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whaletacochamp t1_j3rr4pv wrote

Locked in our propane at $2.90/gal I believe, on the budget program to basically pre buy 800 gallons with the cost spread over 12mo. Works out to $250ish per month I think (lots of bills changed these past few months so I may have screwed that up). Much better than paying close to $1000 every few weeks in the winter, though. Just in the month of December we refilled once (300g tank, so about 200 gallon of propane delivered).

Have also burned about a cord of wood in our wood stove so far this season. Wood is free from our land (although I did buy 1.5 cord this year due to having a kid) Main heat is baseboard/hydronic.

House is 2400sqft, about 400sqft of which is a newer addition with vaulted ceilings. Woodstove is in the addition so most of the heat gets trapped in there with it being an addition with high ceilings.

All zones set at 65 but addition and first floor are 70-75 when the wood stove has been running for a bit. Second floor is always 65.

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dnstommy t1_j3rwbip wrote

178 nat gas and hot water. 1/4 cord of wood for ambiance. 2700 sq ft. So 200 total.

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happyhourscience t1_j3rxjj1 wrote

Air source heat pumps in Burlington, 1,400 square foot house at 65.

Total electric bill for December was $205, but that includes heat pump hot water, electric dryer, an EV and electric (induction) stove.

It's really hard to assess the heating only costs, but I'd estimate them at ~$100 for the month. It'll be more in January and Feb as it gets colder and the heat pumps lose some efficiency.

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sunra321 t1_j3rxmnu wrote

1800sqft propane $211

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bscrampz t1_j3s2azv wrote

Natural gas, 2000sq, $160, 72 degrees.

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Climate_Face t1_j3s2cho wrote

Propane, $300ish, 1100 sq ft, temp kept around 61. Last fill was 2 months prior, so it’s probably more like 150+/mo

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1T-Nerd t1_j3teacm wrote

1200 sq feet, 1960s build with spray foam insulation, wood stove and 7 year old baseboard heater furnaces.

GMP 62 bucks.

Cost of heating oil/wood thus far: 900.

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gcubed680 t1_j3tf865 wrote

Heat pump and wood stove. ~150/mo GMP and a bit under a cord so far. 67 with heat pump in a 2000sqft home, relatively well sealed after Irene so graciously opened all the walls in the first floor

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verifiedboomer t1_j3qor3s wrote

Hmm... last month I burned about half a cord of wood, so roughly $200. There was also some supplemental electric and propane at about $50. I keep the 1400 square foot two-story house at about 70 F most of the time.

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SilentUnicorn t1_j3qrjox wrote

One month- a little less than a cord of wood- less than 1k sqft, 75° plus.

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PrestigiousBrush4388 t1_j3qrutg wrote

$0, natural gas. Renting has perks. We’ve been trying to buy a house for 2 years now and our consolation prize is that heat is included in our rent so we don’t have to deal with the prices. I had a house about 4 years ago and spent over $300 one very cold February that year.

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Twombls t1_j3rmu7t wrote

$120 natural gas. I br apart probably like 700 square feet? Keep it at 68 degrees. Heated by 2 rinnai wall heaters

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Aromatic-Low-4578 t1_j3tvn4g wrote

Natural gas, 1200 sq ft, 69 downstairs, heat is off upstairs but stays around 64 $160

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sad0panda t1_j3ubpl4 wrote

2000 sq foot log cabin with insulated roof. Oil and propane. Primarily use propane, about $250/mo average across a Rinnai wall heater (basement, used sparingly) and a faux wood stove (main floor). Keep it between 70-75 when this is running.

Oil forced hot air furnace backup. 275 gal tank, fill it once a season. So an extra ~$60/month across 12 months since I filled it at >$5/gal most recently.

Furnace is set at 60 most of the time, use it to warm the house to 70 in the morning and then propane rest of the day unless it's a super cold day.

Have good southern exposure, this can keep us from using the stove on a sunny day even in winter.

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dbolg22 t1_j3uqiby wrote

589$ in oil

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throwaway9384929 t1_j3zphyc wrote

I filled my 500 gallon tank a month ago for about $740, one rinnai using propane on each floor (two floors total), 1400sq ft/floor, I keep the house between 64-68 degrees. I’ve only used 10% of my tank so far so $74 I guess for the month

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DebunkerTheGreat t1_j41rbn0 wrote

3500 square foot house including an attached in-law suite that is kept around 65. Heated with only only a 24k BTU and 36k low temp BTU Fujitsu mini split heat pumps. Paid $525 with GMP in December.

I also got a sign-on quote from Amerigas for $1.90 a gallon for propane back in Dec

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historycat95 t1_j43px6h wrote

1800sf

68-69 degrees.

Pellet boiler.

Used half a ton last month.

So....$175ish?

Plus wood stove, so about 1/10 a cord. So $20 - 30 there.

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