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fjwjr t1_j3zosnv wrote

People calling ‘Raiders’ a racist term are like the annoying kid in high school who turns every word into a sexual innuendo.

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wholeWheatButterfly t1_j4170x6 wrote

I mean, you can say what you want about its meaning now, but it was originally very racist in origin. Read old news articles and it's all, "the Raiders brought in more scalps at the game this weekend...", like, come on.

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fjwjr t1_j41bp3f wrote

Um, when you search definitions you get everything from Vikings, to ships, to pirates, to Civil War. So this is literally just a case of cherry picking your outrage.

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wholeWheatButterfly t1_j41bv9z wrote

No, I'm saying, articles about the Rutland Raiders specifically. That is the opposite of cherry picking lol. Like, Vermont newspapers had headlines about the Rutland Raiders scalping their competition.

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fjwjr t1_j41e226 wrote

OK, so now that’s two words that are not necessarily ‘native’ to Native Americans. See how ridiculous this is getting?

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inthepines3000 t1_j41opa3 wrote

No. This is Vermont before 2015 we're talking about. Of course it was racist. Same argument they made about Rebels at SB. Though the flag of choice at SB games was of the Confederate variety.

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j414za6 wrote

it was rooted in some pretty deep racism. if in 2005 they changed the logo to a pirate instead of an arrowhead I bet it would've stuck. whether it's racist now is up for debate, but the native American expert who was brought in to comment said it wasnt super cool.

as a white dude, who am I to argue? who are you to argue?

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Abbot_of_Cucany t1_j433gp1 wrote

Hanover (NH) did have a pirate for a mascot (they called their teams the Marauders), and they just changed to a bear. Raiding and pillaging is no longer considered acceptable behavior.

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KITTYONFYRE t1_j434z7j wrote

fair enough, maybe no logo change could have saved it. raping and pillaging isn't a super cool behavior overall I suppose.

in general... who gives a rats ass. bunch of grown ass adults getting riled up over the high school sports team mascot. lmfao. pick up a football, get a fuckin hobby. jesus christ.

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Kitchen_Nail_6779 t1_j416euv wrote

It was the logo, not the name. U32 is called the 'Raiders' as well but they don't have an arrowhead or anything related to native Americans as their school logo.

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