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lipsticktracer t1_j4dvet8 wrote

I'm a chicken guy, so I've been following the fucking awful spread of avian influenza and the culling of millions of birds. This is one of the weird circumstances where the normal "economies of scale" reverse. The flu has hit large producers and small farmers alike, but with fewer birds, smaller firms have been more able to protect their birds from the flu and when they are infected and the birds have to be killed, a smaller flock is easier to build back up, so they're recovering faster.

Keep in mind that everything that is currently happening with chickens could absolutely happen with beef (it already did, during the pandemic), milk, corn, vegetables, wheat, nuts, or almost anything else. Large food producers can make things cheaper and cheaper but it always comes at a cost to resiliency. Smaller ag producers are the most resilient parts of any economy (any society, really) and while they may not always be cheap, they're what works when nothing else does.

Buying local isn't always cheap. But if there's one place where it really really matters, it's food. Local farms will only be there to support us when the big producers are falling apart if we support them the rest of the time.

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monkeybeast55 t1_j4el7nt wrote

Was just doing some reading about Avian Influenza. To tell you the truth, I haven't paid much attention. But it's very disturbing to say the least. From The Guardian article I'm reading, "It may become less damaging when sufficient numbers of birds have been infected, or the virus could evolve again, making it easier to spill into other species – including mammals and humans.". I hope they can at least vaccinate for the domestic birds, since culling the flocks removes any chance for herd immunity, I'm guessing.

Yikes.

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monkeybeast55 t1_j4em16e wrote

Double yikes. Vaccines are problematic. https://www.science.org/content/article/wrestling-bird-flu-europe-considers-once-taboo-vaccines

Edit: this is by no means an anti vax statement!!

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Harmacc t1_j4ftr7d wrote

Based on your other comment I don’t think you’re an anti vaxxxer (which I think is what the downvotes are about) I read the linked article. Some experts say it’s important to begin developing vaccines for birds and others worry it will somehow prolong the problem and make it easier to pass to humans.

Hopefully we have ready begun getting a vaccine ready for when it does lass to humans on a larger scale.

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monkeybeast55 t1_j4g66z3 wrote

Oh yeah, by no means am I anti vax for humans! I get the flu shot every year and have had all the Covid shots. For poultry populations I was just reflecting on the article, and my comment about herd immunity was based on the article's mention on the potential for herd immunity in wild populations.

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