Submitted by IndefinableMustache t3_10i8crm in vermont

Does anyone actually eat there? I’ve driven through that area a handful of times in the past month and there’s never anyone in there. Is something wrong with their pizza?

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manyapple5 t1_j5cxucs wrote

<pulls up seat> We’ve been going to Cockadoodle for years, they’re good af. But I’ve wondered about this new place, would love to hear some hot takes.

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Playingwithmyrod t1_j5d5hsj wrote

It's decent. Only ever had their pizza a few times. A bit overpriced maybe.

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MizLucinda t1_j5d84t6 wrote

I was in SoRo in the fall and walked by. There were a bunch of people in there doing an open mic or something but it didn’t seem like they were eating.

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starfishsunbeam t1_j5duwtl wrote

I’ve had their pizza once it was ok. But I’ve heard some sketchy stuff about the owner.

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frisbeegopher t1_j5ekeer wrote

IMO their pizza is expensive and the quality is not consistent. The owner has gone on a few unfortunate tirades on social media, which I don’t think has helped him. Village pizza is more affordable and produces a consistent product in a style that folks are used to. For what I would need to pay to feed my family from 802 pizza, we will go a couple doors down and hit Carlitas instead.

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SomeConstructionGuy t1_j5fkvk4 wrote

We did a job nearby about a year ago and the pizza was decent. We only went for lunch, but I’d go back based on my experiences.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_j5hzg6n wrote

Looks like from his FB page’s public posts he’s down the Q rabbit hole quite a bit- major influences/offenses include Hunter Biden Laptop, Child Trafficking and Fauci/COVID Conspiracy rumor vectoring. Minor influences include brotheism, Libertarianism, and bootstrap/hustle culture bullshit. (The minors here aren’t deal-breakers standalone but they usually do imply the majors right?)

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Anon_802 t1_j5t9p5k wrote

I know the owner and have for years, and I created this account for the sake of posting this comment. My family has always known his family.

Through the years, the owner will get a random business idea, pursue it with the ton of money his wife has, do it for several years, and then abandon it entirely when he comes up with his next thing.

This is not the problem with him, though.

While he's become smarter about not being so publicly aggressive, and not being so public about his political and religious ideologies, the guy is absolutely, undeniably, a diehard Trump-supporting bigot who in closer social circles is very vocally against LGBT rights, immigrants, and anyone who isn't a far right conspiracy theorist. He's totally QAnon, but pretty close to it.

He always does a good job keeping this to himself publicly up until he finally cracks, and he always, always cracks eventually. His recent comments on the South Royalton Facebook page got plenty of negative attention recently based on other people I've talked to and other comments I've seen on Facebook, but I unfortunately haven't been able to find them. I gave up my pursuit because I'm never surprised at him ever lashing out. If anyone has a screenshot, or a link if it's still up, I'd like to check it out anyway.

He's mellowed down a bit with his responses to reviews recently, but you can get the tiniest glimpse through the cracks as to how aggressive and backstabby he can be with how he has responded to some reviewers. He has a lot of close friends and family who give his restaurants 5 star reviews because he gets buddy-buddy with them, kisses a ton of ass, and convinces them to rate 802 pizza highly. There are people who have had legitimate good experiences with his two restaurants, sure, but he's one of the most artificial people I've ever had the unfortunate experience of knowing for the last 25+ years. He really aims to be a massive snake oil salesman, but a diehard bigoted POS too.

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Anon_802 t1_j5tadki wrote

This comment actually sums him up quite well and is only missing the fact that he's very much a slimy salesman as well. Like movie character car salesman or a snake oil salesman. He has a long history of owning several different businesses and types of businesses, not so much from his own success, but rather from his wife and her family's money. If he follows his trends, he'll give up 802 pizza eventually and move on to his next random thing. It's very odd knowing he owns a pizza place now. The guy had a real estate magazine at one point before this and it was so annoying how often he pushed that onto everyone.

It's like he has a bunch of random business ideas that he tosses into a hat and every 5 or so years he pulls another one out and pursues it.

This wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't for every single thing you mentioned, and plenty more, about who he actually is as a person.

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Intelligent-Hunt7557 t1_j5u66mr wrote

Sounds like you either haven’t found Jaysus(tm) or are afraid to succeed! LOL. Yeah all that brain leakage on public settings is a mixed blessing- you know who they are but then the horror of realizing it’s the tip of the iceberg sets in, like the memes you see are what passes muster. Thankfully, plenty of business people know to angle for 100% of the business not just 50%!

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