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Commercial_Case_7475 t1_j5vemo0 wrote

Obviously no sane person wants to shoot a home invader, but the point is that you have no idea what that person is intending to do, or what amount of force they are willing to use. Everyone has the constitutional right to life, and the right to protect themselves and their family. When you have an unknown intruder in your home at 2am in the dark, only an absolute idiot would recommend "running away" (how you would even do that, I have no idea), and this ignores the safety of others in the residence, including children (are they supposed to try to run too?).

This is coming from someone who does not even own a gun, and who favors waiting periods and other restrictions on instant or inappropriate access to weapons.

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Generic_Commenter-X t1_j5vlv7p wrote

I could be wrong, but the way the information above is being given, it does lead one to believe that the "duty to run away" applies to ones house at 2AM. Not sure that's true though. I think bullet three would only apply to confrontations outside ones home, otherwise the information above would contradict itself. The second bullet point circumscribes but still recongizes the justifiable use of force in ones own home.

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MisterOrganDoner t1_j5wgutv wrote

The above looks like a screenshot from an already interpreted source of the proposed legislation. Can anyone identify the source or fidelity with the proposed legislation?

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Commercial_Case_7475 t1_j5vmoiv wrote

I read it more carefully and I agree that it seems to apply to confrontations outside one's home, but I would argue this also assumes a grossly oversimplified circumstance of home invasion. More detail would be necessary to protect people's rights adjacent to their home, defense against someone brandishing a weapon elsewhere on the premises etc. These situations are never clear cut and simple, and lawmakers should never fall into the trap of assuming that they are.

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plowfaster t1_j5vn43d wrote

This in general. Even in a parking lot, what if I’m eg old/fat/carrying a baby/disabled? And where will I run, because I don’t know if my attacker is working in a group. Vermont is very rural, I could literally have to run miles before I found someone in many cases

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anusty t1_j62m8yz wrote

Shoot first, ask questions later. Alternative, get shot first. IMPORTANT: always know what you’re aiming at prior to pulling trigger. Not being able to defend yourself is among the dumbest laws humans have devised…yes, please, watch your daughters be raped and when you’ve had enough, flee, don’t fight for their lives or you’ll go to jail, you will not pass go and will not collect $200 and there’s no get out of jail free cards. For the sake of family and friends still there, hoping Lamont fails in this.

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