Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6vydaw wrote on February 2, 2023 at 7:04 AM

Reply to comment by tehfly in Cobra laughing at adin ross by Superb-Win6059

He has a nickname of cobra, but hey its not proved yet he is a human trafficker plus they have not found any evidence against him yet that proves so

tehfly t1_j6w2ddu wrote on February 2, 2023 at 7:55 AM

> On Thursday night, Romania's Directorate for Investigating Organized Crime and Terrorism issued a statement, but did not name the Tate brothers, stating that two British citizens and two Romanian citizens were suspected of being part of a human trafficking group. > > The statement said officers had identified six people who were "sexually exploited" by what it called an "organised criminal group". > > Police alleged the victims were "recruited" by the British citizens, who they said had misrepresented their intention to enter into a relationship with the victims - which it called "the loverboy method". > > They were later forced to perform in pornographic content under threat of violence, the statement said.

"No evidence." Sure.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6ws4ky wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:18 PM

And your point is? Where does it state it is andrew or tristan? Nothing 100% till there is any hard evidence which proves they really are criminals

Defences t1_j6x90q0 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 3:23 PM

Dudes like you would have defended hitler during the world war

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6x9xz9 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 3:30 PM

Bro Hitler and Andrew are two different cases, one is a mass murdering psychopath dictator and other who is a controversial personality who is famous for running his mouth and now apparently for sex trafficking case which is yet to be proved, i am just keeping an unbiased opinion here am not already judgemental like most people because of a few controversial remarks.

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MaKrukLive t1_j6wk19p wrote on February 2, 2023 at 11:57 AM

Dude he described in his hustlers university videos how he's doing the trafficking and exploiting women.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6ws8o5 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:19 PM

If he did that then that can be used as evidence in court which is being not. Get your facts straight

MaKrukLive t1_j6wspsf wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:23 PM

How do you know what is the Romanian prosecution using as evidence? You must have some insane inside sources. Please share more.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6wtkrh wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:30 PM

Out of 6 victims 4 of them have said the tate brothers neither forced them or did anything of the sort which there is an official statement of and other 2 supposed victims are still hidden and not releasing their statement to prolong keeping them in jail. Don't you find something wrong is going on here? Or are you just basing your opinion based on all the negativity thrown around about them on social media

MaKrukLive t1_j6wu53q wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:35 PM

I don't care what people say. I care what he said or officials say and show.

It doesn't surprise me some of his girls defend him. Check any trial of a pimp. Every one of them has loyal girls. He said he was using pimp techniques with them.

It doesn't matter to Romanian law if they consent or not. If he flew them to Romania to do sex work for him, which he said he does, he is guilty of sex trafficking according to Romanian law.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6wverm wrote on February 2, 2023 at 1:46 PM

That is your biased opinion because of something he said about women? When the supposed perpetrator are in jail what pimp techniques are they using for them to defend them? So lets say the people who own onlyfans and porn websites should also be thrown into jail because porn is making women suffer? Porn is a form of sexwork and trafficking which is completely legal that doesn't make them a criminal, if you change your perspective and think logically then you will see something is wrong here and there is someone adamant at framing them and keeping them out as long as posssible

MaKrukLive t1_j6wzhbn wrote on February 2, 2023 at 2:17 PM

>That is your biased opinion because of something he said about women?

What biased opinion? I'm taking his literal words when he described his cam business. How is taking what someone said being biased? What kind of insane logic is this?

>When the supposed perpetrator are in jail what pimp techniques are they using for them to defend them?

He already used them to make them believe they need him and are friends/lovers to make them loyal. You have no idea what you are talking about.

>So lets say the people who own onlyfans and porn websites should also be thrown into jail because porn is making women suffer?

If people who own onlyfans are exploiting the girls by taking a lion share of their earnings without being transparent and then they deceive them making them believe the girls need them and won't make it on their own? Yes. Again I'm only taking what tate himself said on camera about how he runs his camgirls.

>Porn is a form of sexwork and trafficking which is completely legal that doesn't make them a criminal, if you change your perspective and think logically then you will see something is wrong here and there is someone adamant at framing them and keeping them out as long as posssible

Flying girls to Romania under the deception that he is their boyfriend and lying about the profits and making the girls believe they need him and won't make it on their own is illegal in Romania and called sex trafficking. Consent of the girls is irrelevant to Romanian law.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6x6970 wrote on February 2, 2023 at 3:05 PM

>What biased opinion? I'm taking his literal words when he described his cam business. How is taking what someone said being biased? What kind of insane logic is this?

I am not denying he did not do cam business but whatever his course video you talking about he clearly said it was about 10 years ago not currently he is doing it

>He already used them to make them believe they need him and are friends/lovers to make them loyal. You have no idea what you are talking about.

And how do you know he used them in the pretext of "friends/lovers", neither are you in his inner circle neither there is any footage anywhere which proves he used them. You are just saying that on the basis he said he used to do cam business before

> If people who own onlyfans are exploiting the girls by taking a lion share of their earnings without being transparent and then they deceive them making them believe the girls need them and won't make it on their own? Yes. Again I'm only taking what tate himself said on camera about how he runs his camgirls.

The cam business is years old news so I don't know what exploitation you are talking about, and if the girls were exploited no girl would stick around its simple logic nobody can manage a business being "friend or lover" thats just senseless talk.

>Flying girls to Romania under the deception that he is their boyfriend and lying about the profits and making the girls believe they need him and won't make it on their own is illegal in Romania and called sex trafficking. Consent of the girls is irrelevant to Romanian law.

So exploitation is illegal, but the consent of the girls is irrelevant that just answers how flawed the Romanian Law is, I can name 50 countries who would have granted bail to them till not providing concrete proof, all in all nothing is proved yet and i am keeping an unbiased opinion till the end, hope you do too and not base it on his past controversial remarks.

MaKrukLive t1_j6xa4nv wrote on February 2, 2023 at 3:31 PM

>I am not denying he did not do cam business but whatever his course video you talking about he clearly said it was about 10 years ago not currently he is doing it

I don't know when did or didn't he stop doing it. He described he was doing sex trafficking. I'm judging him based on that. I don't know if he kept doing it, I will know once his trial is done.

>And how do you know he used them in the pretext of "friends/lovers", neither are you in his inner circle neither there is any footage anywhere which proves he used them. You are just saying that on the basis he said he used to do cam business before

Again, he described how he ran his camgirl business. I'm just taking his word for it.

>The cam business is years old news so I don't know what exploitation you are talking about, and if the girls were exploited no girl would stick around its simple logic nobody can manage a business being "friend or lover" thats just senseless talk.

I don't know how long a crime of sex trafficking needs to expire in Romania. He admitted to sex trafficking in the past. He also admitted to lying to his girls about profits and giving them only a small share. Also deceiving them into believing they won't make it without him. That's why they stayed

>So exploitation is illegal, but the consent of the girls is irrelevant that just answers how flawed the Romanian Law is,

No it's not. The worst kind of exploitation and sexual exploitation happens when you mindfuck the victim into thinking they need their abuser. Same reason why abused wives don't leave their husbands. You just need to read up a little on the subject.

> I can name 50 countries who would have granted bail to them till not providing concrete proof,

This is the country tate specifically chose for the legal system.

> all in all nothing is proved yet and i am keeping an unbiased opinion till the end, hope you do too and not base it on his past controversial remarks.

I judge him not based on his "controversial remarks" and stupid shit about masculinity that I disagree with, I judge him purely based on what he himself described he has done.

It is beyond me why so many of you get behind a guy who admitted to being proud of getting rich by exploiting women and scamming men. Your local garbage man is a better role model.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6xd98e wrote on February 2, 2023 at 3:51 PM

>I don't know when did or didn't he stop doing it. He described he was doing sex trafficking. I'm judging him based on that. I don't know if he kept doing it, I will know once his trial is done.

You are confused between cam business and sex trafficking my friend those are two separate thing, and he did say he did cam business as side gig during his ufc gig which he has stopped long since, and if you are judging him from then that is not an unbiased judgement

>Again, he described how he ran his camgirl business. I'm just taking his word for it.

Even if he did say that he also said he was young and made mistakes at the time which he had the balls to openly say it and has stopped it.

>I don't know how long a crime of sex trafficking needs to expire in Romania. He admitted to sex trafficking in the past. He also admitted to lying to his girls about profits and giving them only a small share. Also deceiving them into believing they won't make it without him. That's why they stayed

Again i think you are confused between cam business and sex trafficking, you can't take one part from 10 years back and one part from now to joint them and make a criminal out of someone without concrete proof

>No it's not. The worst kind of exploitation and sexual exploitation happens when you mindfuck the victim into thinking they need their abuser. Same reason why abused wives don't leave their husbands. You just need to read up a little on the subject.

I agree but i don't think this is the case which applies here

>This is the country tate specifically chose for the legal system.

No he didn't specifically choose that country, he has many homes in many countries like Dubai, Germany etc. He just happened to be there in Romania during that time.

>I judge him not based on his "controversial remarks" and stupid shit about masculinity that I disagree with, I judge him purely based on what he himself described he has done.

>It is beyond me why so many of you get behind a guy who admitted to being proud of getting rich by exploiting women and scamming men. Your local garbage man is a better role model.

I am not judging him yet or neither is he my role model, i am just keeping an unbiased view till the issue is resolved, in your case you have already judged him by his past remarks then how would you be able to look into the clear picture, if in your mind if he already is the villian then even if he has done nothing wrong now and is proven innocent he will remain a villian for you.

MaKrukLive t1_j6xioeo wrote on February 2, 2023 at 4:26 PM

>You are confused between cam business and sex trafficking my friend those are two separate thing, and he did say he did cam business as side gig during his ufc gig which he has stopped long since, and if you are judging him from then that is not an unbiased judgement >Again i think you are confused between cam business and sex trafficking, you can't take one part from 10 years back and one part from now to joint them and make a criminal out of someone without concrete proof

I am not confusing anything, this is Romanian law about sex trafficking. You are confused about what sex trafficking is

>ART. 210 Trafficking in persons (1) Recruitment, transportation, transfer, harboring or receipt of persons for exploitation purposes: a) by means of coercion, abduction, deception, or abuse of power; b) by taking advantage of the inability of a person to defend him/herself or to express his/her will or of his/her blatant state of vulnerability; c) by giving and receiving payments or other benefits in exchange for the consent of an individual having authority over such person, shall be punishable by no less than 3 and no more than 10 years of imprisonment and a ban on the exercise of certain rights. (3) The consent of an individual who is a victim of trafficking does not represent a justifying ground.

What he said he did to the camgirls is sex trafficking.

>Even if he did say that he also said he was young and made mistakes at the time which he had the balls to openly say it and has stopped it.

We will see soon won't we?

>No he didn't specifically choose that country, he has many homes in many countries like Dubai, Germany etc. He just happened to be there in Romania during that time.

Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Here's him saying he moved to Romania video from 7 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuO3JYB41P0 Here's why he lives in Romania, because he wants to take advantage of the corruption of the justice system. https://www.tiktok.com/@bffspod/video/7119935304504528174 He didn't happen to be there, that's his main location.

>I am not judging him yet or neither is he my role model, i am just keeping an unbiased view till the issue is resolved, in your case you have already judged him by his past remarks then how would you be able to look into the clear picture, if in your mind if he already is the villian then even if he has done nothing wrong now and is proven innocent he will remain a villian for you.

Yes. I judged him on what he did in the past as a bad person. I have reasonable, rational grounds to do it. This doesn't stop me from waiting for the trial. If they don't find any evidence they should free him, despite me thinking he's a piece of shit.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6xm7eq wrote on February 2, 2023 at 4:48 PM

>I am not confusing anything, this is Romanian law about sex trafficking. You are confused about what sex trafficking is

So are you saying that police will come catch anyone for whatever they said in some video about something that happened like 10 years ago for some influence in social media and people have to agree that as some solid evidence?

>What he said he did to the camgirls is sex trafficking.

Once again something happened long back and in another country doesn't make a basis for romanian force to make a case on him

>Bro you have no idea what you are talking about. Here's him saying he moved to Romania video from 7 months ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuO3JYB41P0 Here's why he lives in Romania, because he wants to take advantage of the corruption of the justice system. https://www.tiktok.com/@bffspod/video/7119935304504528174 He didn't happen to be there, that's his main location.

He didn't say he moved out to romania in the video he said he went to visit someone there like it and decided to stay there also he said he is constantly flying so you can't be saying its his base per se, and every rich and influential person takes advantage of the justice system of wherever they are so it doesn't apply solely to him.

>Yes. I judged him on what he did in the past as a bad person. I have reasonable, rational grounds to do it. This doesn't stop me from waiting for the trial. If they don't find any evidence they should free him, despite me thinking he's a piece of shit.

To each their own i guess

MaKrukLive t1_j6xpxos wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:11 PM

>So are you saying that police will come catch anyone for whatever they said in some video about something that happened like 10 years ago for some influence in social media and people have to agree that as some solid evidence?

No. I'm saying I am forming my opinion on him on that. What he described he did was sex trafficking. I'm not confused about anything.

>Once again something happened long back and in another country doesn't make a basis for romanian force to make a case on him

It was the same country. He's not being investigated for his videos. We don't know exactly what the case Romania is building against him is. All I know he is a sex trafficker because he admitted to doing it in the past.

>He didn't say he moved out to romania in the video he said he went to visit someone there like it and decided to stay there also he said he is constantly flying so you can't be saying its his base per se,

Are you high, think I'm stupid or what? It's literally in the first 10 seconds that I pointed you at https://youtu.be/uuO3JYB41P0 . You people are crazy. Someone points an elephant to you and you go "no that's not an elephant". I don't even know what to say. You can hear him literally saying "I moved to Romania". Is that AI generated deepfake or what???????????????

>and every rich and influential person takes advantage of the justice system of wherever they are so it doesn't apply solely to him.

So what? Number 1 It doesn't make it okay that other people do it. Are you gonna start stealing because other people do it? Number 2 I haven't forgotten why I said he moved to Romania because of corruption. You can't complain about Romanian legal system if you specifically moved to Romania to abuse their corrupted legal system.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6xs2ws wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:24 PM

>So what? Number 1 It doesn't make it okay that other people do it. Are you gonna start stealing because other people do it? Number 2 I haven't forgotten why I said he moved to Romania because of corruption. You can't complain about Romanian legal system if you specifically moved to Romania to abuse their corrupted legal system.

Well he didn't outright say he is there to exploit their justice system but its freer than other countries, I guess it came to bite him in the ass at the end

MaKrukLive t1_j6xu25n wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:36 PM

I have already pointed you to a video where he says he wants to abuse the corruption in Romania https://www.tiktok.com/@bffspod/video/7119935304504528174

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6xup1v wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:40 PM

Hence this case i reckon

MaKrukLive t1_j6xvypc wrote on February 2, 2023 at 5:48 PM

You wanna know what I think? I don't know if this is true or not, but if the dude is rich, has casinos (which attract illegal business), he lives a rockstar life, and has been in the past doing illegal exploitative stuff, there's a good chance he is doing or helping his friends do something illegal. This might not be the case, but I wouldn't be surprised since he seemed to think he's the king of the world and people like that tend to engage in shady deals. I've known too many guys like that, just not that successful at it.

The Romanian justice system might have been bribed by him to look the other way, like he said, but when he blew up recently on the internet with all those videos talking about corruption in Romania, their justice system decided to make an example out of him especially since it has to do with human trafficking and Romania is trying to please EU about their human trafficking situation. The rule is if you are bribing people, never say it out loud. He better be squeaky clean because they will xray every brick of his house and all the his taxes for as far as they can. I don't think he is clean, but it is a possibility. We will see.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6xzsni wrote on February 2, 2023 at 6:11 PM

>You wanna know what I think? I don't know if this is true or not, but if the dude is rich, has casinos (which attract illegal business), he lives a rockstar life, and has been in the past doing illegal exploitative stuff, there's a good chance he is doing or helping his friends do something illegal. This might not be the case, but I wouldn't be surprised since he seemed to think he's the king of the world and people like that tend to engage in shady deals. I've known too many guys like that, just not that successful at it.

Well he is smart enough that if even if he was involved in some shady deals he has kept it under wraps or people such as him who flaunt their riches don't last long.

>The Romanian justice system might have been bribed by him to look the other way, like he said, but when he blew up recently on the internet with all those videos talking about corruption in Romania, their justice system decided to make an example out of him especially since it has to do with human trafficking and Romania is trying to please EU about their human trafficking situation. The rule is if you are bribing people, never say it out loud. He better be squeaky clean because they will xray every brick of his house and all the his taxes for as far as they can. I don't think he is clean, but it is a possibility. We will see.

Who knows what the real deal is i bet they both rubbed some corrupt official the wrong way and are trying to drag this out as long as possible to punish the brothers cause its very easy to manipulate things nowadays or else such thing didn't happen in other countries where they go to. Plus they are still free to be back in Dubai which one of the strictest counties regarding sexual matters

MaKrukLive t1_j6y07wj wrote on February 2, 2023 at 6:14 PM

We can make the same assumption about Romanian police and say that if this is going to be such a public case they won't do any funny business because there's too many eyes watching.

Maybe he hasn't done anything illegal in Dubai, that's why they didn't do anything about him.

Superb-Win6059 OP t1_j6y11me wrote on February 2, 2023 at 6:19 PM

Well let's see what happens at the end, if they r guilty the romanian police will provide some solid evidence otherwise they will have to set them free and if they don't provide anything concrete they will have a huge backlash.