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iheartennui t1_j7ks60a wrote

what is even the point of going electric if you get something that has basically more carbon emissions than an ICE vehicle? the only actually sensible EV is an e-bike

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Zhuul t1_j7l2aq8 wrote

This has been disproven time and time again. Fuck outta here.

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iheartennui t1_j7lg1kg wrote

what's disproven, that the hummer has a higher carbon footprint? got a source for that? it will really depend on your power source of course, most of which is generated by burning fossil fuels

Really, the idea of justifying this level of inefficient consumption blows my mind -- it has 250 kWh batteries! You can run a whole home pretty comfortably with just 10 kWh and a few solar panels. Why do you need to move 5 whole fucking tons of stuff just to get your ass from A to B when a bicycle would do?

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Zhuul t1_j7lhwn1 wrote

I’m not sure you know what a kilowatt-hour is lol

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hi9580 OP t1_j7n64lp wrote

Smoother/no shifting gears, quieter drive. Less air/water pollution in major cities, less lung issues. Less moving parts, less points of failure.

More efficient use of energy, electrical energy can be used directly instead of the chemical potential energy of fuel which needs to be transformed into heat/kinetic energy to be used. Any transformation wastes energy.

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iheartennui t1_j7qndaa wrote

Most electrical energy consumed in the US is generated by burning fossil fuels. That energy had to be generated, transported, and then used to charge your battery, which has losses at each step. It also has to move a lot more mass in a typical EV than in their ICE counterpart, and especially in this Hummer.

So no, it's not really that efficient in terms of energy use -- a train or a bicycle and even a fossil fuel burning bus would be a lot better. And even compared to a normal car, unless you are installing your own solar panels to charge it, it isn't guaranteed to be less efficient in terms of carbon emissions, and with the Hummer it's been widely spoken of that they are far worse than even the ICE Hummer.

The only point you might have is air pollution, but the power stations are still burning that fuel and they are often doing so in or near cities. Car tires also produce toxic dust from friction with the roads and since EVs are heavier than other cars on average, they tend to produce more of this dust.

There's a marginal improvement in all of the EV business to what we were doing before, but there are still so many better options, like the e-bike. And if your choice is the hummer than you really can't claim any

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