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Red8Rain t1_j7ryoki wrote

Is ganon back from the dead after link killed his true pig form in botw?

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lexilogo t1_j7tgypy wrote

Calamity Ganon wasn't his "true" pig form, it was a projection implied to be created due to the sealing of the true Ganondorf corpse, which has been tortured underneath Hyrule (and, if you believe the speculation, harvested for ancient energy) for an immeasurable amount of time

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firestepper t1_j7xcy4w wrote

Oh gotcha… was that part of the game or do i have to watch 200 hours of Zelda theory videos to get that part?

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lexilogo t1_j7xfuwf wrote

The "harvested for ancient energy" bit, yeah, ~200 hours of looking at the architecture 'n stuff.

The basic idea... Not really?

  • Something happened to Ganon that made him begin "reincarnating" as Calamity Ganon, all normal forms of him are spoken of as phenomenally ancient legends
  • We see an extremely ancient corpse that is clearly Ganondorf sealed away with a much more pure version of Malice leaking from it

There's more evidence about the specifics of why he might be down there than that, but the basic idea of "oh crap the real ganondorf was down there?" is something that anyone paying attention should've picked up on pretty much immediately

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Weerdo5255 t1_j7sj8yd wrote

Isn't part of the Zelda lore that all the Games are taking place ten's of thousands of years apart?

Link, Zelda, and Ganon all reincarnate and are locked in this eternal struggle.

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j4nkyst4nky t1_j7srzxt wrote

So roughly, there were three golden goddesses created the world and left behind the triforce, which has incredible power to shape the world (no gods can use it importantly). The goddess Hylia was in charge of protecting it. A super bad dude called Demise shows up and he wants that triforce to shape the world how he sees fit.

Demise is sealed away by Hylia but she is seriously wounded and also she knows the seal isn't going to hold. So she denounces her godhood and uses the triforce so that she can die and be reborn when Demise escapes the seal.

Fast forward a while and the seal fails. Hylia is reborn as Zelda. Hylia chooses a champion (Link) and he defeats Demise. But Demise is like "I'm not going away that easy. I will be reborn as many times as it takes!" And he has indeed been reborn several times as Ganon(dorf).

So Zelda, Link and Ganon are stuck in a cycle of rebirth all centered on the triforce. Or at least that's my understanding of the Creation period. I'm sure someone a little nerdier than me could pick it apart if they wanted to.

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Weerdo5255 t1_j7sss4y wrote

I'm ready to bestow you the nerd badge. It's more than what I knew.

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Star_Tropic t1_j7su8g0 wrote

Is his name Ganon or Ganondorf? I've always said the first as a short hand for the second.

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ATLSox87 t1_j7sy7v6 wrote

Ganondorf is Ganon's human form. Ganon's true form is a beast

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Crash4654 t1_j7t0pkt wrote

Opposite. Ganondorf is the true form, Ganon is when he changes.

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ATLSox87 t1_j7t18ay wrote

I was trying to confirm that before posting but idk if Nintendo has ever definitively clarified it. Here's what the zelda wiki says:

https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Ganon#:~:text=Ganon%20is%20a%20nickname%20for,to%20in%20most%20subsequent%20titles.

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Crash4654 t1_j7t1gi7 wrote

Fandom is... not quite reliable.

Oot revealed his true form. He transforms into Ganon under extreme measures when he unleashes the full power of his triforce.

Its not known why he doesn't revert back in some installments.

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Red8Rain t1_j7sus6l wrote

ah yes now I remember reading about this.

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Rotation_Nation t1_j7sq9es wrote

Many of them are shorter time frames than that, but for BotW the events of the past games are so far gone that they have faded into legend.

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benjalss t1_j7ugw29 wrote

I have won again, Lews Therin.

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kodutta7 t1_j7v8iqp wrote

Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth comes again.

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Mythosaurus t1_j7unch0 wrote

Yes that reincarnation cycle happens, but there are also multiple games that follow the same “Link” through different adventures.

  • Link from “Orcarina of Time” goes on to be in “Majora’s Mask”
  • Link from “Wind Waker” is the same guy in “Phantom Hourglass” and “Spirit Tracks”
  • “Link to the Past”, “Oracles series”, and “Links Awakening” have the same Link.
  • Link in BOTW is the same on in Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity

So the characters in BOTW are the same Link and Zelda we’ll see in Tears of the Kingdom.

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