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MiddleUziVert OP t1_ivg8zw3 wrote

As far as I know - he was sentenced to 60 years in prison at age 15 for the shooting death of another teen. Since being locked up he has earned his GED, and is now running the prison’s addiction program and working as a barber.

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Tayttajakunnus t1_ivh2wep wrote

60 years in prison? That's just fucked up.

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18-8-7-5 t1_ivh3do5 wrote

If he can bring the other guy back to life he should be allowed to go free.

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KillerJupe t1_ivigblc wrote

It is fucked up because you're asking a kid to make an adult decision.
Many adults can't accurately judge long-term consequences of their actions... kids are even worse at this.

It's shit that the other person is dead, but is it worth ruining both lives?
I don't know the right answer, but I don't think prison is it.

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AFourEyedGeek t1_ivitgfj wrote

Then why lock them up? Just execute them all.

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jointheredditarmy t1_ivjrlxa wrote

I can tell from your tone that you aren’t seriously suggestion that… but… yeah it’s not a bad idea. If the jury can only choose between a 15 year max sentence or death penalty, you’d have much shorter average prison terms and the ones who really deserved the death penalty will get it

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AFourEyedGeek t1_ivn9af1 wrote

In some ways I actually do understand this, but who decides 'who really deserved the death penalty'? Hard ass conservatives keen to pull the trigger on any trangression they can or soft ass liberals letting mass muderers live with access to mutliple facilities?

I think if you have a young man beaten by their guardian most of their life, who only knows violence, gets into a tussle with another angry young man and one ends up dead, wouldn't it be better to try and reform the survivor? Show them that violence isn't the only way life can be?

Another thing I wonder how many black people would get executed vs white people getting 15 years.

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Tayttajakunnus t1_ivh5k92 wrote

Locking him up doesn't bring anyone back either.

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Tayttajakunnus t1_ivissbu wrote

The Stalinist incarceration rates of America don't seem to correlate with low crime rates though. For example where I live the average lenght of life sentence is 14 years and the longest sentence ever is 25 years, but the murder rate is about 4 times lower.

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newjackcity0987 t1_ivjq12l wrote

Out of curiosity, do you have for-profit prisons are does the government manage the prisons?

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Tayttajakunnus t1_ivk0cmh wrote

No, there are no for-profit prisons.

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newjackcity0987 t1_ivk1q38 wrote

Could be another reason why prison doesnt reform people in the US. The prisons are incentivized to not reform them

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W4ffle3 t1_ivhk2o4 wrote

We should lock everyone up then to prevent all future murders.

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MoltisantiNod t1_ivitigf wrote

Once they murder someone first, that's generally how it works you see.

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