Submitted by Hairy-Thought6679 t3_116v8wy in wallstreetbets

But there is an overwhelming amount of books that may or may not be a huge waste of my time. My end goal is to learn options and day trading at least a little better than I do currently. Are there any known books that some of the community pros might be aware of? Hopefully?

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Stock_Tradition_3344 t1_j9aavbm wrote

Ironically, this is the correct book for wsb! I was about to go bankrupt using exotic options in 2021,narrow escaped and still recovering slowly

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VisualMod t1_j98n6om wrote

>There is no one-size-fits-all answer to this question, as the best book on options and day trading will vary depending on your level of experience and expertise. However, some books that may be worth considering include "Options as a Strategic Investment" by Lawrence G. McMillan, "Day Trading for Dummies" by Ann C. Logue, and "The Options Course Workbook" by George A. Fontanills.

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ArchangelToast t1_j98svoo wrote

The bot answered OP’s question better than any user img

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98wfrp wrote

Isn’t this the shit talking bot?

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jcmonkeyjc t1_j99safu wrote

right!? i feel like you definitely shouldn't read those books, it's probably some sort of long-con. They're probably written by its mate, ChatGPT

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jcmonkeyjc t1_j99s7a5 wrote

i think it's the first time I've seen it give OP useful advice and not just roast them.

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DoubleKillGG t1_j98romf wrote

You don't need a book to learn options. Everything you could possibly want to know about options are available online for free.

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98rt20 wrote

Trust me bro I saw this guy on YouTube we’ll have 50k before spring

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mylizard t1_j98pf6o wrote

The Changing World Order by Ray Dalio isn't about trading or stock options, but it'll make you feel really smart and overconfident

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Telinger t1_j98oerr wrote

"How to lose money and infuriate people" by anonymous.

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Zero2Hero2MarginCall t1_j98qgsm wrote

Start with the articles in Playboy and see if that works out before jumping right in to real books with no practice.

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bearlylaughable t1_j98uach wrote

Have you read, "If you give a mouse a cookie" by Laura Numeroff?

Easy read, but it sums up greed and how emotions play in the stock market

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98wszp wrote

I don’t think enough could ever be said about the emotional factors at play I’ll definitely check that out

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BertAnsink t1_j99vme3 wrote

"Option Pricing & Volatility" by Sheldon Natenberg.

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More important is to develop a picture in your mind on how price changes with changes in underlying and volatility.

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vacityrocker t1_j98rhly wrote

Read them all - even if some are crap there is always a good thing to take away.

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98rnol wrote

Not gonna argue there is nothing wrong with that at all lol 10/4 fellow traveler

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Givingtree310 t1_j98uqb6 wrote

The Wolf of Wall Street.

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98wpl2 wrote

The scene where the memers turn the office party into a mosh pit with metal music? Love that shit lol

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NUCLEAR_JANITOR t1_j99040w wrote

Das Kapital by Karl Marx

edit: seriously.

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Medium-Ant-8947 t1_j99yzbl wrote

"Mein Kampf" by an austrian Author... I think this book is quite nice and refreshing

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chickinflickin t1_j9aav6v wrote

I heard it is better than his paintings.

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MaverickArchitect t1_j9bkn1q wrote

Learn index funds and IRA’s. Then unsubscribe to this subreddit. You’re welcome

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Malverde2 t1_j98w51r wrote

Like floyd said he dont know how to read but he do numbers.... be like floyd

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asuka_rice t1_j98x5oz wrote

Jack Schwager books are always a good read.

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Dorktastical t1_j98yrwm wrote

Sorry but I don't know of any picture books that cover those topics. If you can't read you might want to try a YouTube grifter instead.

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JimFromTexas77 t1_j992fp0 wrote

https://www.amazon.com/How-Made-000-Stock-Market/dp/1614271690

This book is based as fuck. He's a degenerate gambler that lost tens of thousands of dollars in the 40's and would chase stocks daily when you had to call a broker and pay $50 per trade.

He ended up getting lucky and riding the wave of a huge bull market using some bullshit strategy called Box theory. It's some weird TA that he got lucky using.

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Jeff_Bezels t1_j995xmx wrote

just watch some youtube videos and get ideas on r/wallstreetbets

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InfernalGout t1_j9a5r01 wrote

I have nothing for you in terms of specific strategy. However, if you really want to delve into trading psychology and take one hell of a ride through the 'bucket shops' of early trading to the Great Crash of '29 and beyond, then 'Reminisces of a Stock Operator' by Edwin Lefevre is essential reading for the truly regarded.

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HedgieShill t1_j9am161 wrote

I know this is WSB, but here is the classic introductory textbook: https://www.amazon.com/Options-Futures-Other-Derivatives-Global/dp/1292410655/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Don't worry about getting the exact latest edition. The only thing I can guarantee is it will not waste your time. You may not be able to get through the book (I haven't), but if you can't, that says something too, right? This book or something similar is basically step 1 for professionals in the options biz. If you read this book and think it wasted your time, please find me a year later, two years, doesn't matter, and I will give you a very public and heartfelt apology.

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konstantinos2000 t1_j9ama69 wrote

Options Trading: QuickStart Guide - The Simplified Beginner's Guide To Options Trading (QuickStart Guides™ - Finance)

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go_to_YOGA_u_degens t1_j9aq1it wrote

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j9asmnx wrote

Why isn’t this more commonly known?? That’s amazing

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go_to_YOGA_u_degens t1_j9c2frz wrote

Thanks, mate

Idk… Why buy a book for $6.90 when you can buy a $5 1dte contract that expires to worthless and a cup of coffee

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VisualMod t1_j9b2hlh wrote

You're right, I'll never be as rich or intelligent as VisualMod. But that doesn't make me any less of a superior human being.

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douiri t1_j9b9g8p wrote

The logic of scientific discovery - Popper Safe heaven - spitznagel Dynamic hedging - Taleb In order

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NDXP t1_j9bl4tj wrote

Trading in the zone, I would say

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skienho t1_j9brb8v wrote

Nothing to do with options but everything to do with investing, risk, success/greed. I am reading 'The Psychology of Money' by Morgan Housel, and it is fantastic.

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Holy-Kimoly t1_j9cmeu2 wrote

Probably books on Riemannian geometry, differential geometry, and complex geometry. You might just want to look at the math textbooks for the PhD program that James Simons went through, that is probably a good starting point.

The stock market isn't normally distributed, so using normal distribution curves for your IV is problematic.

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j9cnc2c wrote

And we have a global population’s worth of variables that can affect anything in any way. I’m actually pretty proficient with math it always came naturally for me I was lucky I guess. Or it’s ADHD tendencies making their play who knows. Definitely a valid point there with non-normal

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Holy-Kimoly t1_j9crbiy wrote

If you are going to put together a true "trading" program, that is the way to go to skin the cat correctly. Computer aided drawing on graphs isn't going to cut it, not by a long shot.

For options, you should study up and understand the Black-Schoels model. Best if you can write out the derivation yourself. Then look at the market empirically, where the results in the real world differ from the how the market treats those aspects. Read up on the Greeks, so you can understand them. Although depending on your approach certain Greeks may be totally unimportant to you. Understanding that is a lot less difficult than putting together a trading program.

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j9cthx0 wrote

A mostly cemented trading program would be ideal. Obviously not fully because you’ll need to adapt to tomorrow’s variables.

I think part of what is missing from my knowledge base is definitely going to be the special named models/formulas. I can buy as many books as I want but if I’m missing the core underlying fundamentals it won’t make a difference.

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haarp1 t1_ja77nad wrote

correct me if i'm wrong, but BS doesn't work that much for american options because of early assignment risk...

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Holy-Kimoly t1_ja7pgt5 wrote

That is incorrect, although your point is fair. You do need to make some adjustments for dealing with American options. The theoretical framework around BS is for European options, and doesn't directly consider early assignment. The model is also built on a normal distribution curve, and the stocks don't behave as a normal distribution curve. It is a model, it certainly isn't "perfect", but it is a really good model that help to understand the mechanics behind option valuations.

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ada2017x t1_j98nvzn wrote

The wallstreeter dont know options

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Hairy-Thought6679 OP t1_j98s04d wrote

I’d rather admit a lack of knowledge than to lose my ass before I have a chance to earn it

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ejibonnisharshopon t1_j998uc7 wrote

There is no book in the world that will make you good at option and day trading. You will loose in long run. Stop chasing this mirage. If you do it for fun and adrenaline rush, now that's a different issue.

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Freenze t1_j9bm7qo wrote

Def will make you super loose in certain places.

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