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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugn7ob wrote

I believe in the free market, but I also believe in social welfare programs as well. Funny how you name those countries, but not Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Norway, and etc.

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olek2507 t1_iugnwqi wrote

I put etc, which you failed to notice. I bet you think those Scandinavian countries are democratic socialist as well, repeating what Bernie touts.

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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugopi6 wrote

Do you know what Democratic socialism is? Are all professions paid the same? Does government make business decisions?

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olek2507 t1_iugoxwo wrote

Do you understand the difference between a market economy and democratic socialist economy?

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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugpg8d wrote

Yes I know. SD = achieving social welfare programs through taxes and other things government can decide on while ME- is through more like entrepreneurship, basically free market

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olek2507 t1_iugpkt4 wrote

And we all know when you have a free market, you give citizens more options without government red tape, free to create their own destiny and better opportunities to thrive. Depend too much on the government and opportunities dissipate.

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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugoliu wrote

I’m not sure to be honest, but I’m saying if we all pay taxes, why can’t that go to the citizens? What’s wrong with providing healthcare to lower income folks? We all pay taxes the money should be spend on citizens

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olek2507 t1_iugopw8 wrote

The issue is you can't trust the government with that amount of money, most of it goes to their sponsors pockets and whatever is left goes to the people.

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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugoztt wrote

I agree, that what pisses me off, but if we hold them accountable. Let me ask you this do you support in those services assuming the element of theft and corruption is eliminated?

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olek2507 t1_iugpbrr wrote

I'm having trouble understanding the wording of your statement. Especially the last part. Can you elaborate? Lack of accountability and weak leadership is 2 biggest problems in governments all over the world. If politicians knew there were consequences for their actions, we would be living in a different world.

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olek2507 t1_iugorpg wrote

Scandinavian countries are market economies, not democratic socialist.

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OpeningTruck2212 t1_iugp3wi wrote

Which I believe that’s the right thing.

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olek2507 t1_iugpfxc wrote

Ok so enough of spreading of this democratic socialist bs, it's not true and the dutch minister of finance has explicitly stated they are a market economy, not a democratic socialist one.

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