Submitted by whicky1978 t3_zupga6 in wallstreetbets
d_HOME t1_j1knc9a wrote
When will rate hike stop? July? Or Sept?
SparrowTale t1_j1kpxln wrote
JPow mentioned this month that the target rate is 5.1%. Since the current fed rate is 4.25-4.50%, we are looking at maybe another two hikes of 0.25% each, likely in Feb and Mar.
whicky1978 OP t1_j1kqz0l wrote
I have a feeling that omnibus spending bill is going to create more inflation.
Mourinholib99 t1_j1lsmft wrote
why? its totally in line with other omnibus bills
Mourinholib99 t1_j1lsoag wrote
also half of it is millitary and Ukraine which got 0.0 to do with inflation
whicky1978 OP t1_j1m93zi wrote
That money is making lot of people rich.
Mourinholib99 t1_j1m9hmu wrote
yeah sure i guess but in no means contributes to inflation
KyivComrade t1_j1o1ewp wrote
People whos money is sent offshore to a tax paradise, whoem written off as a mysterious loss here. Money sent to be hoarded in a digital world by the ruling elite...they won capitalism.
Now of you happen to give some money to a normal citizen, one who actually works and produces something, it'll lead to inflation and thus is bad. Food, housing, everything has risen sky high...but me preserving 1/10th of my purchasing power is bad and "dangerous". Mr billionaire getting another few billions is good. 🤡
Goosnavslakovic t1_j1nt4gt wrote
Money circulates. For example, SBF donated to the DNC, many politicians opted to send billions to Ukraine, Ukraine and its citizens made heavy use of crypto, and guess how much of that FTX was involved with? Saying that money is going to another country so therefore not a problem is extremely shortsighted behavior. That completely dismisses money velocity which allows the dollar to be devalued through its circulation which can easily make its way back to the US. Remember MV=PQ
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Mourinholib99 t1_j1nwd0b wrote
Okay thats just a bunch of nonsense… In no way if even a tiny amount of money really took this path it still had 0 influence on inflation
whicky1978 OP t1_j1luarb wrote
Like which ones?
Mourinholib99 t1_j1m75kr wrote
you know these happen like nearly every year right?
whicky1978 OP t1_j1m7wq1 wrote
Not worth $1.7 trillion
Mourinholib99 t1_j1nwlzl wrote
2021 omnibus 2.3 Trillion 2022 1.5 Trillion this one 1.7 trillion 2020
whicky1978 OP t1_j1o5x2x wrote
That also correlates with the highest inflation for the past year over year. When governments blow out the spending you get inflation. Just look at Venezuela’s inflation.
Mourinholib99 t1_j1o6ebm wrote
don’t hit me with these talking points man. Of course to much spending can lead to inflation, obviously. 2021 was because Corona and the reaction (for better or for worse) needed a lot more social spending. my point is that this omnibus is extremely ordinary and will have 0 influence of the baseline inflation expectations.
SkipperSkupper t1_j1l3v5v wrote
_ThatsMyQuant t1_j1lq3ss wrote
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thetagangnam t1_j1lt5d2 wrote
Who taught you how to count?
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Miss_Smokahontas t1_j1oaic2 wrote
Very optimistic of you. Bags must be Stoopid heavy.
jr1tn t1_j1kq5vg wrote
So far, the Fed has been 100 percent incorrect in their predictions about their own hiks and future rates. But, you think this time is different?
SparrowTale t1_j1kqh1g wrote
Hence using words like “maybe” and “likely”. Ain’t nobody can tell us the future 100%.
jr1tn t1_j1kqq9f wrote
Good point sir!
Noodleface00 t1_j1kyygx wrote
Jerome Powell said even when they stop rate hike they going to keep rate at 5.1% till 2024
Neerko_bat t1_j1ljbg4 wrote
Wait, did you actually Listen to what daddy JPow was saying? That means you're one of the smarterst WSB users.
nyse125 t1_j1lm7gj wrote
Some of us actually read the SEP but all 11 members' aggregate suggests 4.6% in 2023 and 3.9% in 2024. Not bullish in the slightest either.
Unknownirish t1_j1lxq1h wrote
I actual listen to jpow religiously and he seems stance on no rate cuts until he feels like it folks
want the year? 2025
wsbSIMP t1_j1mi5z4 wrote
This info is outdated though.
The new dot plot has most of the votes for 5%+ terminal rate for 2023. Some have 5.25 and others just 5.1
nyse125 t1_j1mnfxv wrote
No I'm talking about the September projection
Hacking_the_Gibson t1_j1m1or6 wrote
They are going to break something before then.
The layoffs in white collar jobs are going to accelerate and then comes defaults.
Smongk t1_j1m82g7 wrote
Yeah bUt IT's PriCeD In!
Unknownirish t1_j1mvt54 wrote
It is.
viperex t1_j1q3vo0 wrote
How long they hold it there will depend on the target inflation the Fed wants to reach. The question is will JPow hold to that 2% target or will he settle for higher? Some talking heads say he should look at up to 4%
whicky1978 OP t1_j1knljr wrote
I predict it’ll be the middle of the year at the earliest, so hopefully by July
whicky1978 OP t1_j1koz4f wrote
Not that I’m particularly smart I just heard Dan Niles saying on TV
Obsidianram t1_j1nn2pg wrote
Probably around February 31st...
DrummerCompetitive20 t1_j1kt522 wrote
I bet June July they pivot
Shapen361 t1_j1mskda wrote
Fed funds futures point to I think May. This could change as the year progresses.
Snowflake69oz t1_j1mvxz2 wrote
Depends on inflation data duh
Frank_Caswole t1_j1ne4zl wrote
December... 2024
ramsfan00 t1_j1l2zuu wrote
July. Well enter a recession around April - May. People just wont stop spending so the fed will keep raising rates.
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