Submitted by MrLebouwski t3_10ol8ww in wallstreetbets

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Hello dear regards, while Tesla is going to the moon there are companies that could benefit from tailwind. I decided, after December deliveries hit a record of 15,815 cars, to YOLO all of my money into NIO without considering any other factors like macroeconomic situation, Chinese politics or the fact they didn’t make a profit yet.

Obviously now, four weeks after my purchase, it’s time to think about my investment.

To minimize risk a bit I’ve decided to take a longer time frame, €22,000 on 1/24 $14 warrants (my tiny brain tells me there’s no risk at all), €21,000 on 6/23 $16 warrants (could lose half of my investment which is okay) and €2,100 on 3/23 $15 calls (risky but compared to the rest a „tiny“ amount).

You guys see there’s already a profit made but I wouldn’t be here if I was a reasonable and rational guy. All positions are still OTM and I can see all of em reach ITM status until beginning of March.

Let me explain why (my thoughts are one dimensional so better don’t follow if you are attached to your money):

There are no exact numbers of deliveries for January yet but you can get a picture of approximate numbers if you take a look at weekly registration numbers. We need to know there were 9,652 cars delivered in January 2022. This needs of course to get beat to move the price.

First week of January we count 2,818 registrations in China, second week 2,963. Makes 5,781 until January 15th. So far so bad. They are still struggling a bit, but the amount of deliveries is ok considering the problems China had and has lately. To make things in January worse Chinese new year holidays were last week from 21st to 27th. So for sure not the best month in their history. But that should be priced in. And I think despite all the negative factors they’ll still manage to beat last years deliveries easily and from here on it’s getting started.

First let’s take a look on last years deliveries:

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We see horrible numbers in February 2022. If NIO just keep staying at the level they’re at the moment (~2,900 registrations per week) they will grow approximately 90% YoY in February. If they increase and go beyond 3,000 deliveries per week like in November and December 2022 already we face more than 100%. The stock market likes growth of 100% and more. Why should they get back at the level from December you may ask. Shanghai just recently (yesterday, so most probably not priced in yet) extendet it's $1,500 subsidies for EVs until December 2023. And it's starting on February 1st again. NIO is pretty big in Shanghai already. Interesting side note btw:

>The policy was first released in Shanghai last May and was valid until the end of 2022.

NIO hasn’t delivered less than 10,000 cars per month since May 2022 and hopefully never will again and their outlook is around 70-80k cars in H1 and 140-150k cars in H2 of 2023. CEO Li was talking about at least surpassing Lexus in China (around 200k) in 2023. They are pretty confident about at least 50% growth.

And to talk about profitability eventually, „NIO is still losing money, but mainly due to R&D investment, and the company's gross profit has largely covered its overall operating costs, according to Qin.“

Interview from president Qin Lihong from January 26th 2023.

https://cnevpost.com/2023/01/28/nio-president-further-details-sub-brand-nio-phone/

I won't start talking about many other aspects that could be bullish or bearish (phone, battery swaps, Neopark phase II and the sub-brands ALPS and Firefly, etc.) so no real DD at all. I just wanted to share my YOLO to get you guys excited for a potential nice loss porn you can fap to or a good gain for me I can fap to.

See you in Valhalla

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VisualMod t1_j6faijd wrote

>Hello dear regards, while Tesla is going to the moon there are companies that could benefit from tailwind. I decided, after December deliveries hit a record of 15,815 cars, to YOLO all of my money into NIO without considering any other factors like macroeconomic situation, Chinese politics or the fact they didn’t make a profit yet.

Obviously now, four weeks after my purchase

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jr1tn t1_j6fawbp wrote

This a CRAZY trade -- and likely to result in a FORTUNE.

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mlamping t1_j6fc9ni wrote

Interesting, after Tesla cut in prices, has Nio done the same? I know their profit margin is lower, would that impact their ability to lower? Would Tesla cause Nio to lose purchases?

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MrLebouwski OP t1_j6fdyk9 wrote

They haven’t as far as I know and most probably won’t since they are in a different price segment with most of their cars. Xpeng did just recently in reaction to Tesla as a direct competitor.

It will have some impact, can’t deny it. But it won’t stop them of growing immensely in 2023.

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skqwege t1_j6fe5w8 wrote

Selling itm puts since it will go up, then the pits are otm and I take premiums to the bank for freeeeeeeee

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MrLebouwski OP t1_j6fgvts wrote

Thx. Tomorrow or Tuesday we will get registration numbers from January 16th to 29th in China. If they are horrible I’m gonna sell, not attached to my position at all but I expect them to be okay. And speaking of Tesla, they had pretty good sales back in September e.g., way better than in the beginning of January as far as I know so let’s see.

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Professor_Meteor t1_j6fjlur wrote

OP, I can’t read when your calls expire, but I’m assuming your calls are to expire in a couple of months?

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LudwigVanBonkhoven t1_j6fjzph wrote

Feeling the fomo big-time after missing out on Tesla. This seems like a decent place to channel my irrational need to gamble.

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Unknownirish t1_j6fkaw9 wrote

You say your calls end in March right? How far out are they? Day wise? Thanks

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Ok_Dot8050 t1_j6fksw9 wrote

My friend bought NIO 2 years ago at 44$. He and his brother put almost 50K each into NIO. They tried to convince me, and I tried NIO for some time but then got out.

2 years later, I am still ready to buy TSLA @180, but NIO @15 is scary.

But again, it's not about what I think, and in 2023, inversing me has made given better returns. So, let's go Calls on NIO!

I mean PUTs..

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MrLebouwski OP t1_j6fmsww wrote

Just the small position $2,000 worth. 3/17 $15. The other ones with about $20,000 each expire in June 2023 and January 2024.

Putting everything into $15 March calls was a bit too risky, even for a moron like me who doesn't give a shit about much in life.

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MrLebouwski OP t1_j6fnfb0 wrote

$44 means valuation of around 80 billion. NIO wasn't that big back then. Now it's still not undervalued but it could run if some factors play out nicely. Next week will show with January deliveries and rate hiking.

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Justforaminute12 t1_j6fomb3 wrote

I remember the days of NIO being such an easy stock to make money on . About 4 years ago

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trowawee1122 t1_j6fvn4e wrote

Your account has a totally normal posting history.

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xiphosphd t1_j6fwpji wrote

This is not a CRAZY trade at all. No fine user. What /u/MrLebouwski has just done is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever seen. At no point in that rambling, incoherent "DD" was OP anything close to what could be considered a rational options trade. Everyone in this sub, is now poorer for having listened to it. I award you an upvote, and may we all follow and YOLO the hell out of this incoherent, risky, mess. +1 sir. To the moon.

Edit: TL;DR German: YOLO diese Scheiße

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Ggggmny t1_j6g0u8u wrote

Too much to read…know your audience.

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Mortgageguy1871 t1_j6g1qgw wrote

My heart is racing and I might just join your regarded ass!!!

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prasshh t1_j6g2jz7 wrote

I would rather put my money on GM before I put it on NIO. GM has a lot more prospects than this.

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BrizFrost t1_j6g7iez wrote

Why use many word when few word do trick? I buy calls or I buy puts?

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SaabFan4 t1_j6g861h wrote

This is unfortunately probably true since I cut my NIO bags last week after 2.5 years and a 60% loss 😞

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DA2710 t1_j6gax9i wrote

I really like you OP. Your honesty is brutal. “Without considering” and “ No DD at all”

true legend.

I will throw some in to show solidarity.

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MrLebouwski OP t1_j6gbsf4 wrote

I see you ain’t familiar with the dude. Probably too young. Shame on you even though.

And we‘ll see about failing. Strong opinion for a guy that is as clueless as me img

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deerelkyummybunny t1_j6ge0ew wrote

Fade all Chinese tickers

Your odds of getting burned are way too high

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BreachlightRiseUp t1_j6gfygh wrote

Oh yeah, it’s time for the real market crash if we’re back to these levels of plays

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Okimingme t1_j6gjvas wrote

You do know that those are warrants right? Not call options? Cause it sounds like you think those are call options. Not that you can’t make money with warrants but….you keep calling them options. They do not at all work the same way

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Retardstrength888 t1_j6gkcht wrote

I am long NIO and asked my Chinese friends which Chinese EV company has the inside track (Li, XPEV, Nio) and even they don’t know, suggested I blend them in a basket.

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gundawg300 t1_j6gkyx0 wrote

NIO’s got <$1 (if even that) before it tanks

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KingBUFFness t1_j6go9zt wrote

I’m in I’ll be doing my part and buying 8 calls at $17 with expiration 3/3

Not a financial advisor just a fellow regard

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Mathguy100 t1_j6gu0y6 wrote

I went with a much worse but affordable position. 282 MULN $1 1/24 calls

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MogamboKushhua468 t1_j6gx0cd wrote

Wait for few weeks before loading Hangseng down 500+ points

Correction happening

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Dark_Tigger t1_j6h83n9 wrote

You bought $49000 worth of NIO calls? In warrants? From HypoVereinsbank?

Best of luck, you gonna need it.

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AChaosG91 t1_j6hkxli wrote

Wish I had insider information.

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a03b t1_j6hpew8 wrote

This guy gonna fuk if jpow increase 25

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Krtxoe t1_j6hs1mi wrote

Why is this pinned by moderators? Market manipulation?

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kaseboyla t1_j6hssyo wrote

I'm blind so which calls am I buying lol

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beanbryant44 t1_j6hydkr wrote

Stock Moe just blew a fat load to this, good luck OP hope you bank

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AllGasNoBrakes_ t1_j6id2lq wrote

Better off having unprotected sex w Brazilian tutes !!! At least you’d have more exciting stories

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beyerch t1_j6ivu0y wrote

Tesla is *NOT* going to the moon. NIO could do OK though as they are still growing.

Tesla, on the other hand, is getting it's ass handed to it in China which accounts for a large portion of their sales/profit. They are also losing ground in Europe and sales are slow in the U.S. (aside from the Model Y variant under 55K)

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