IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65ghr3 wrote
Reply to comment by grimkhor in To Hindenburg & other interested parties: my advice? Invest in some good home security. by BlueRidgeGamer
You cant compare your puny country that is smaller than at least one of our states, to our entire country.
grimkhor t1_j65h7jf wrote
I can and I did as those stats are per 100k people and not landmass. So stats say you're wrong. You know what I even provide a source.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
Mediocre-Ad1831 t1_j65mwop wrote
Nice bias there, first stating that other countries are safer without guns and then bringing stats that show gun deaths by country
grimkhor t1_j65nvkw wrote
Later in the conversation I posted a statistic about crimes as the other guy went down the same regarded rabbit hole without doing their homework and actually knowing the stat. Just read it. I don't wanna start a second conversation that ends in a way that we should compare USA to third world countries only.
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65hojn wrote
You brought your own source, and the majority of that list......owning a firearm or majority of firearms is illegal in those countries and most of the ones that you can on that list.....its illegal to carry outside of your residence without a specific permit.
grimkhor t1_j65j3wo wrote
Don't start being pedantic if you didn't do your homework buddy because there's a source button on the site. It's not my source it's a reliable source.
https://i.imgur.com/ZMguSU4.png
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>owning a firearm or majority of firearms is illegal in those countries and most of the ones that you can on that list.....its illegal to carry outside of your residence without a specific permit.
Correct that's the point. If multiple people show up at your residence trying to fight they show up with guns and shoot you. If they show up in any other first world country they just rob you because neither one has a gun.
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65jv8z wrote
Your argument was that countries "without guns" are safer. You provided a source where most of the countries have very strict gun laws and were on the top of the list for gun related deaths. I dont even know where you're trying to go with your argument now because you make zero sense. Stop talking to me.
grimkhor t1_j65kpiy wrote
Ok I listen which first world country is above USA. We can also look at crime which USA is also unreasonably high among first world countries.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/crime-rate-by-country
But as long as both you and the criminals have guns. You just have to be a badass to shoot all the criminals
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65l1hh wrote
Ohhhh now you wanna backpedal and change it to just first world countries. Stfu dude
grimkhor t1_j65liqa wrote
You really want to say that USA is more of a third world country and we should apply the standard of government corruption and failed states to USA instead of the one you would expect from a first world country. OK if you want compare USA to third world countries I agree as a third world country USA is not that bad. I'm actually shocked that you think it's backpaddling because USA IS a first world country what comparison did you expect.
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65lpn0 wrote
Hey bro, I have just been arguing with you based on the exact words you have spoken. Its not my fault youre really bad at debating. You should practice your vocabulary next time before you get in an argument. Stop talking to me
grimkhor t1_j65m8m2 wrote
Actually if you argue based on exact words that makes you a pedantic fail and very bad at making arguments. You should be ashamed to represent your country in this really regarded way. I actually wish that you really think about the content of the words said and not about exact word usage so you might next time not look as regarded and might add something to the content of the discussion.
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65mrs1 wrote
See, thats where youre wrong. If I was arguing your argument, I would have had a source that was broken down by 1st world countries. You didnt do that, so thats all the Info I used to counter argue. Thats how debates go, you fucked up with your words and sources, I saw your bluff, I utilized your bluff to make this argument go exactly how it went, and then I pointed your bluff out.
Good day, sir
grimkhor t1_j65nhtf wrote
This is absolutely regarded you have eyes do I need to give you a list of first world countries or what?
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65nwpp wrote
You have google. Do I need to give you proper sources for your arguments so you dont have to look like a dumbass and try to backpedal?
grimkhor t1_j65o7qv wrote
IllustriousSignal575 t1_j65ogo1 wrote
You really didn't need to let everyone know you're consuming copium right now. They can tell.
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