Submitted by ohmygorn t3_10pzdsw in wallstreetbets
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ambermage t1_j6oytfg wrote
50 was expected, so carry on after 2 red days as penance.
robot_handjob t1_j6pb5ak wrote
So many people calling for 25 saying it’s the last hike while JPOW has done exactly what he’s said he will do the entire time and 25 doesn’t put us at the terminal rate they already decided on.
kyliecannoli t1_j6oj85p wrote
The more wallstreetbets wants the market to tank tomorrow the more I feel like it’s gonna skyrocket
Grimbruiser t1_j6ozgfq wrote
This is the way
AwesomeRevolution98 t1_j6paip1 wrote
Correct. Though in the end market might jump pump 1% after a 25bps, and then probably the bear trend could continue anyways
Hotresearch-68 t1_j6mxdko wrote
Beggars are so attractive.
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Hotresearch-68 t1_j6nvm82 wrote
Old man , young boy ? Not my thing .
ambermage t1_j6oyyki wrote
Not according to your search history.
Hotresearch-68 t1_j6p8ksl wrote
You buy puts in your ? They said ?
Serafiel0705 t1_j6n0xyh wrote
Beam should shine from his ass
ComposedStudent t1_j6oxkay wrote
It be funny if 75 bps comes out of nowhere. Investors aren't respecting the Federal Reserve
ohmygorn OP t1_j6oy3rz wrote
FracturedSoula t1_j6nizxa wrote
Are people here really betting on him going 50 instead of 25? Truly regarded.
ambermage t1_j6oz7rg wrote
He should do 100 and then yell "Fucked around and found out!"
Business_System3319 t1_j6o6ym4 wrote
No, it’s already overbought on a pivot and rate cuts but there’s a 95 percent chance it’s two 25s then halt and wait for a market response. 4.9999999 percent 50 and .00000001% 75
Robincapitalists t1_j6odjlb wrote
I don't know why the market is stuck on 2 25 hikes. That would leave them at 4.75-5%. Under their dot plot, under what they project the end rate to be (which is 5.1, so they'd go 5-5.25)?
Hopkinskid2022 t1_j6oha2k wrote
Their dot plot is projection and can change. If they project 5.1, and they leave it at 5%, nothing new or game changing. Plus if you look at past fed minutes from past years, there’s always doves and there’s always hawks…and depending on the environment, one has influence over the other…last year the hawks won…this year, the doves may
Plus look at the bond market and treasury yields to figure out where that market thinks fed funds rates will be.
Robincapitalists t1_j6oqmop wrote
Over the last 6 months their end rate has moved up, as has the time they anticipate holding it that high. So yes, it can change, and did change to higher and longer.
The markets, equities and bonds are stuck in 2020, 2021 thinking. My opinion.
Hopkinskid2022 t1_j6p44r7 wrote
I think the markets are waiting for that pivot where their end rate remains static (versus the end rate going up every fed meeting since last summer, as you mentioned). I think that’s the catalyst the markets are looking for (not 25 vs 50 bps, but more the messaging).
Robincapitalists t1_j6pa5xu wrote
If the markets rally, the Fed will just keep raising and or hold the rate at 5% for a long time until the markets get the message. The Fed is not happy the market is trying to lead on a pivot.
I think we are in a different era. 2010s low-rate Fed assistance. I believe that is over for a long time.
Business_System3319 t1_j6odvf6 wrote
That’s a fair point which is probs why a 50 then a 25 would make the most logical sense so they don’t have to keep doing 25 rates until it goes down.
SproutedWinkle t1_j6ob0f1 wrote
<<<< this guy answers to no one
Fit-Mangos t1_j6omlxw wrote
The better move is 0 :)
workinguntil65oridie t1_j6mz0q6 wrote
F your puts
ohmygorn OP t1_j6mzcwf wrote
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TSLA240c t1_j6no1rk wrote
50 is bold. 25 is likely. 0 is possible
ohmygorn OP t1_j6no9hs wrote
kmpoaquests t1_j6myv1y wrote
Just need to do that harry potter spell to make grim reaper of financial markets to go away
RagzToBitchez t1_j6ncttq wrote
Expecto Pivotnum.
TheKinkyYolo t1_j6nbh1l wrote
Expecto Patronum
daynapper t1_j6nqxat wrote
Get real, it’s either 25 or zero fam
impulsikk t1_j6o99x9 wrote
As someone with a job in real estate... please no.
DA2710 t1_j6odvn4 wrote
As another person with a life in real estate please YES!!!
OmNamahShivaya t1_j6nth4o wrote
Just crank it up to 10,000 bps so we can somehow all get rich off puts. Think about it, guys!
Grimbruiser t1_j6ozvie wrote
I'm down
whowasphones t1_j6o2w4o wrote
Buy a put then 👀 lemme see you put your money where your mouth is
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Siessfires t1_j6o841b wrote
I, too, liked The Lighthouse
Professional_Low1199 t1_j6ogp4e wrote
JPow is a little biooootch and is too scared to be a real man and do a 1.75 BPS rate hike.
Ohmaygahh t1_j6nqprw wrote
Is that pyramid head's great grandfather?
Kitten_Team_Six t1_j6nwyb8 wrote
Ghey bers
Practical-Button7546 t1_j6o13w1 wrote
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QuantitativEasing t1_j6n5xpd wrote
Stay the course
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Maskedbandittrader t1_j6olk5m wrote
Look into my eyes now bend over
PipelineBertaCoin69 t1_j6oq9r6 wrote
Canada did 25bps, the fed told them to do that, the fed will do 25bps
smalredpanda t1_j6oqypy wrote
So.. calls?
Big-Routine222 t1_j6p580v wrote
Isn't it confirmed at this point that it will be a 25 bps?
ohmygorn OP t1_j6p5aq3 wrote
Fuman20000 t1_j6pil9n wrote
Let’s fucking hope so because the market alone has gone up more than 6% in a month.
Outis7379 t1_j6nnnta wrote
Dude, if Jpow hikes 50, the market will shit its pants for 5 minutes and then decide “it was 50 bps therefore pivot next” and moon.