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CandlesAnonymous t1_j7212us wrote

Counterpoint: No, we shouldn’t just let people take over public parks for their own personal use.

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Sufficient-Job-1013 t1_j72okmm wrote

Hard agree. This is just wild. People defending the right to live in parks are only virtue signaling, pretending to be helping. Living in a tent in the middle of a city is a problem, letting it continue is complaisance and tacitly giving up on addressing it.

We need to fix the root cause but in the meantime you can’t live in public spaces.

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sharpwqt232 t1_j73qi11 wrote

Counterpoint why are we okay with restaurants having permanent parklets taking up parking space? I'm talking about the shitty covid ones built in a rush.

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under_psychoanalyzer t1_j740lay wrote

I'm not sure wtf this has to do with the homelessness issue but if you want to start a completely separate discussion about it:

  • Yes absolutely those should be brought up to some sort of code and all the ones I've seen lately (I live near a lot) have been reinforced to be safe, heated structures protected behind concrete barricades
  • Many people are in favor of moving away from the uniquely American concept of letting car use take over such significant portions of our cities. Letting restaurants expand patios brings us in line with the rest of the developed world.
  • There's real economic benefit to it (increased restaurant capacity, pandemic safe seating for local businesses) and the amount of parking spaces they take away is negligible
  • I could keep going but its not really worth it, since your red herring of a comment barely deserved this much effort and you've probably stopped reading anyways.
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HussarMurat t1_j7457f0 wrote

Because they are a far more efficient and pleasant use of land than more on-street parking (which there is already far too much of).

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CriticalStrawberry t1_j74ry9u wrote

Becuase restaurants are businesses and businesses pay taxes. It's a much better use of land than the net cost drain street parking is on the city.

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AzarathineMonk t1_j725er1 wrote

We shouldn’t have to let them, but until there’s actual buildings for them to move into, we’re just sliding them around until they’re out of sight.

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