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NorseTikiBar t1_jacwvm5 wrote

"Up 40%" when we're not even two months into the year is a wildly disingenuous thing to say in a headline, but crime post trolls will eat it up.


Reeetankiesbtfo t1_jacz6rn wrote

Up zero percent would still make us a far too violent city.


NorseTikiBar t1_jad0ghb wrote

I'd imagine that by the end of the year, nationwide trends will still keep us barely in the top 20. But sure, let's pretend two months is predictive.


Reeetankiesbtfo t1_jad2kc5 wrote

Im not sure how you can say we are only top 20 most violent city in the US like thats a good thing. Many of those cities are some of the most violent in the world…


NorseTikiBar t1_jad3e12 wrote

And I'm not sure how you can try and claim that DC is so wildly dangerous when Baltimore is literally an hour away.

This is a nationwide trend, and yet some of y'all are so goddamned intent on trying to point the finger at any little thing that local government does when the reality is far more complicated.


Reeetankiesbtfo t1_jad42vr wrote

The existence of something worse doesnt mean we aren’t also bad


NorseTikiBar t1_jad52s4 wrote

And I wouldn't say that barely being in the top 20 in a nation with a boner for having as many guns as possible makes us "bad," or certainly not as bad as needing a bullshit sensationalized headline about the fact that we've had a whopping 10 more homicides than we did at this point last year.


guy_incognito784 t1_jad1vky wrote

That’s valid. This time last year a lot of people were staying at home due to omicron.

More people out and about now. Plus the rise in juvenile crime and the fact that many students in cities have been testing far below their grade level would lead me to speculate having remote learning in cities weren’t great for teenagers in cities and we’re seeing the impacts of it now.

But I’m just a dumbass on Reddit so what do I know


__main__py t1_jad5x4y wrote

> This time last year a lot of people were staying at home due to omicron

If I remember correctly, homicides were actually up pretty severely the first three or four months of 2022, and it was only a major drop later in the year that led to an overall decline. If that is the case, then this sharp rise in homicides is even more alarming.


NorseTikiBar t1_jad469c wrote

I think I'm still willing to say that trends will even out as the year progresses and we'll end up with a lower number of homicides than 2022 (because right now we're talking about an increase from 25 to 35), but I would completely agree that remote learning meant a lot of at-risk kids got lost through the cracks and that we're going to be seeing a lot of trouble coming out of them as a result. That remains my biggest problem with a lot of cities' covid policies, and it's also unfortunately a situation where conservatives got to the right solution of opening schools earlier for all of the wrong reasons.


Turbo2x t1_jae8n95 wrote

Are people really surprised that after >1 million excess deaths across the country and a mass trauma event, people are not doing well? I know redditors don't want to talk about solutions that don't involve a cop on every corner, but that's probably what we should be looking at.


leantomorrow t1_jadf0az wrote

I mean, is it actually disingenuous? That’s the data as compared to the same time last year. It seems instead disingenuous to dismiss this data point because it’s not an ideal reflection of YoY.


NorseTikiBar t1_jadmd0o wrote

It's ridiculously sensationalized to report it as such when we're talking about going from 25 murders to 35. That's like at the beginning of the baseball season, some players will have 1.000 and look like gods amongst men or .000 batting averages and look like AAA rejects. The stats aren't wrong, they're just lacking meaningful context.


leantomorrow t1_jadoj2s wrote

Bro. You need to back up and look at your worldview a bit.

10 people more killed is the innocent loss of 10 human beings. It’s in no way sensationalized to make the statement this is 40% more compared to last year. In fact this should be published widely, vocally, and often. Beat it into the public consciousness. Explain why this is unacceptable.

It’s not fucking baseball. Goddamn. People in this subreddit are legitimately fucked in the head.


NorseTikiBar t1_jadpcff wrote


Do you know these people? Have you been crying at your desk all morning over the news that 10 more people died YTD compared to last year? Are you in the process of sending flowers to their grieving families?

Or are you just using them as an emotional cudgel to engage in some horseshit pearl-clutching? Because newsflash: understanding how stats works and giving a less emotionally charged example doesn't make me "fucked in the head," but you screeching about a number that lacks context sure as shit just might.


leantomorrow t1_jadq484 wrote

You seem like a nice, well-adjusted human being. Good luck.


NorseTikiBar t1_jadqm86 wrote

Best of luck in getting through the day without collapsing to the floor in hysterics over news that someone you don't know died today. I would think that the average person has pretty good odds on that not happening, but you're clearly not even average.


dmpastuf t1_jadpxal wrote

“The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of a million is a statistic.”


dynospectrum7 t1_jaegt6b wrote

If it makes you feel better, Baltimore is trending lower in 2023 vs 2022, 2021, and 2020.


Deanocracy t1_jaeak77 wrote

It can be distorted.

But its an increase on an increase during the first half of last year.

So a concerning trend