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shaunstudies t1_je7hnyk wrote

Does an off-duty police officer have authority?


keyjan OP t1_je7hrwl wrote

Presumably as much as a security guard?


The_Sauce_DC t1_je7k01q wrote

They’ll have all the normal authority- the BID is contracting with the department for people to work off-duty overtime.


razmoe t1_je7ppt6 wrote

They have all the authority of an on-duty police officer, they just aren’t billing the department for their time.


sagarnola89 t1_je9oee6 wrote

$88/hr was the figure I saw. So more than I make as a consultant.


PalpitationNo3106 t1_je7ns2l wrote

Amazing. MPD constantly says they don’t have enough officers to cover areas, but when you’re willing to pay the OT, all of a sudden they got you covered. $100/hour to sit in your cop suv and play candy crush? Not too shabby. Also fun fact! The BID is responsible for all the OT from any activity these police are involved in. Make an arrest? Four more hours of OT to take the person in and do the paperwork. Goes to trial? Paying to meet the prosecutors and testify? On the BID.


Gilyon01 t1_je7rfdc wrote

Most people would say that if your employees are working more than 40 hours a week to provide a service, then that employer doesn't have enough staffing.


PalpitationNo3106 t1_je7umtq wrote

Cops have always made OT. But instead of deploying them to places where there is actual violent crime, they’re deployed to the highest bidder. How does this protect and serve? You get police protection, if you can afford it? Will MPD be able to deploy more cops to neighborhoods experiencing high levels of violence? Or will they be restricted by having a contract to rent them out to someone else? You gonna go tell a neighborhood that has had a dozen murders this year that they can have more cops, it’s just $2k a night.


webbmoncure t1_je9c0oy wrote

Yep. If the BID cash is paying for it, the richer neighborhoods get police and the poorer ones don’t. Crime gets worse EOTR and in traditionally underserved areas. History repeats itself.


4RunnerPilot t1_je88op7 wrote

I thought all violent places wanted less police; wanted to defund them and replace with community interventionists. You are saying more police presence is good for communities?


Brozilean t1_je890hl wrote

Are they being replaced with other solution like you said? Or is the money just being used less efficiently in places that have rich people?


spanxsayswhaaa t1_je90c8h wrote

Oh you just called their bluff.

This is what they wanted until they realize violent crime is out of control and now they are begging for them back LMFAO


Gumburcules t1_jea04kw wrote

Interesting. Do you have any data that backs up your thought or are you just making stupid generalizations based off articles you only read the headlines of and random internet comments?


EthanFl t1_je8jv1l wrote

Dial 1-800-THE-COPS, accepting all major credit cards.

-Snow Crash


The_Sauce_DC t1_je9ho8f wrote

There’s plenty of mandatory overtime, forced doubles, and backfill going on in high-crime areas on the taxpayer’s dime and almost every summer many districts start canceling days off in the summer. There’s no shortage of government time. With the amount of cancelled days off and forced overtime many people work the equivalent of thirteen to fifteen months a year. The difference between this and a BID slot is that department overtime is on the taxpayers dime and you can be compelled to do it while BID overtime (and other details like the Nats) are voluntary and it’s privately funded. If you choose to do on your time it’s the officers decision.

Also- nobody is making $100 an hour- usually BID slots are straight time (ie whatever your normal wage is) or time and a half for a few hours a night. Most BID overtime guys aren’t looking to make lockups- they’re there for visibility and deterrence and if nothing pops off while they’re there than they’ve done their job and the BID is happy. If there is an arrest (likely Simple Assault, Unlawful Entry, theft, etc.) most never go to trial so court pay never happens. Besides, almost nobody loves Court here- it’s often on your day off or not your shift, and parking sucks compared to suburban court houses.


Okie_Muddy_30 t1_je8gj7b wrote

Have you ever worked? The BID needs extra hands and it pays for them, otherwise who, in your wise opinion, should pay the money?


ZonaPunk t1_je81czz wrote

I sometimes have a coffee at compass coffee and there is a group that hangs in the alley next to Buffalo Wild Wings all the time. Very weird dynamic with that group. Not the usual corner boy stuff of getting high or drunk. My guess is drug dealing and they also seem to working with someone inside the restaurant.


keyjan OP t1_je81r4f wrote

The tv spot on this interviewed a woman who works in one of the restaurants down there and she said she's very skeeved out leaving work after midnight with all the random people hanging around in clumps.


kkc0722 t1_je7uqwa wrote

Lol at the city doing everything except solve the problem: The Sportsbook is tanking Navy Yard and should be gone. Who could imagine why a bunch of criminally inclined people suddenly want to bring guns and congregate to a block where a bunch of out of towners frequently carry large amounts of cash?


LoganSquire t1_je82xi9 wrote

But no sports book means no sweetheart deals for your cousin. And we can’t have that.


NoGovernment8587 t1_je9a8gg wrote

The sports book there and downtown are such a fucking blight. It’s bad enough that sports gambling has made sports unwatchable at times but now it’s ruining neighborhoods in real time. Such a bummer.


BrightThru2014 t1_je8jgi4 wrote

The sports book at Grand Central has also made that stretch of 18th more sketchy. Talk about unintended consequences


QueMasPuesss t1_je8t57q wrote

It’s crazy the unsavory characters sports betting brings in. Cuts across age and race lines too. Has changed any bar that features it for the worse really quickly.


BoseSonic t1_jea6vkj wrote

It’s crazy to me that people physically go to sports books when it’s much easier to place bets from your phone


Naive_Coast_8919 t1_jef45ej wrote

Not in DC. Only citywide option is Gambet and their laughable interface and odds. Blame the corrupt Council for giving them a no-bid sweetheart deal, I believe because a Gambet exec is related to McDuffie.


Vegetable-Ratio-5857 t1_je8qvqg wrote

"Roughly a dozen businesses, organized by the Capitol Riverfront Business Improvement District, will pick up the tab" -- strange that these businesses would do this for a problem that some on here claim doesn't exist...


DC-COVID-TRASH t1_je9dpyc wrote

It's advertising for dumb suburban "DC is a crime wasteland" folks


medievalmachine t1_je9bthu wrote

Pro tip: wait for someone to show up before you argue with them. It looks less crazy that way.

Fun facts: crime was down last year, it's up this year. This year is 3 months long. A small sample still.


Salami2000 t1_je9egtg wrote

Crime was slightly down after two years of historic increases. You have to go back almost 20 years to find a worse year than 2021, and 2022 is barely better. The overall trend is that crime is way up, you're just playing games here.

One quarter of the year is not a small sample.


Gumburcules t1_jea0mi5 wrote

> strange that these businesses would do this for a problem that some on here claim doesn't exist..

Literally nobody is saying that crime doesn't exist...


orville-redcocker t1_je9dt2a wrote

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ChockBox t1_je844f1 wrote

How many more people will Bagshaw get to murder?


drr71-2 t1_je8arei wrote

If that's the officer that shot the guy at the Wharf, I guess it depends on how many more violent fellons whip out a gun in public and point it at someone while he's around.


ChockBox t1_je8fpg4 wrote

That he shoots in the back while intoxicated *fify


LetsAllSmoking t1_je9s3tt wrote

Guy pointing a gun at people in public gets shot by a cop

Dead guy (and you): :O


Hope_Burns_Bright t1_je7rbyr wrote

Nothing bad has ever come from an off-duty officer parading around looking for threats. Never ever ever.


sandalwoodjenkins t1_je7s28u wrote

Nothing bad has ever come from not enough officers parading around looking for threats. Never ever ever.


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Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeabjc9 wrote

According to the article, it's because people are "hanging around outside for no reason" which sounds so incredibly scary!!!!

The only incident cited is the shooting at Navy Yard metro, which was targeted and had nothing to do with the vewwy scawwy people standing around on the sidewalk.

One of these off-duty cops is going to start some shit for the wrong reasons and someone's ending up dead.


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Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeazqtc wrote

Let's pretend that you're not a throwaway account with the sole purpose of being a contrarian troll on this subreddit.

For fucks sake it says "after some violent attacks in the area" without any attribution. What does "in the area" mean? Are the attacks random or targeted? Did they result in arrest? Just admit you don't want any of that data because you're satisfied with a couple of Lone Rangers shooting "undesirable" people in the street, Karen.

Goddamn, your addiction to Nextdoor has obliterated all literacy skills you may have had.

But sure, off-duty cops with less oversight than they already had will solve this! All the better to get those scary people who stand around on the sidewalk. Hey, got any spare boots I can lick? You seem like the expert.


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Hope_Burns_Bright t1_jeb24aq wrote

Calling me "unhinged" because you can't handle being wrong is loser behavior.

Go back to being a contrarian troll, you have nothing to contribute lmao


KillLaKillmonger t1_je9t7qp wrote

Well nothing bad has ever happened to the certain type of people that flood this subreddit. They can't relate.