PanAmargo t1_isiipvj wrote on October 16, 2022 at 6:32 AM

Murder rate is higher than many big “dangerous” cities in Latin America

Then-Broccoli-823 t1_isjxn62 wrote on October 16, 2022 at 3:35 PM

I mean, you can literally google this and see that it is blatantly not true. The list of cities by homicide rate is almost exclusively Latin American. There are 4 US cities on the list, and DC is not one of them. There is more recent data available, but the only other US city that pops up on that list is New Orleans, which is famously not Washington DC.

PanAmargo t1_iskaeby wrote on October 16, 2022 at 5:00 PM

Homicide rates per 100,000 (data from 2019 was easiest to find)

San Salvador, El Salvador: 35.3 per 100,000

Mexico City, Mexico: 17.6 per 100,000*

Bogotá, Colombia: 14.3 per 100,000*

Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic: 10.4 per 100,000*

https://insightcrime.org/news/analysis/2019-homicides-latin-america-capital/

Washington, DC homicide rate per 100,000 (2021): 32.9 per 100,000*

https://www.npr.org/local/305/2022/01/03/1069895511/d-c-saw-227-homicides-in-2021-as-murders-increased-for-the-fourth-year-in-a-row

No one claims that Washington DC is the most dangerous city in North America or South America, only that it’s murder rate is on par with “very dangerous cities” like San Salvador, and double bogota and Medellin and DF

Patient-Ad-7171 t1_isjwfi1 wrote on October 16, 2022 at 3:27 PM

This is a false equivalency as they do not have the resources that we have

RandomLogicThough t1_isjwtt1 wrote on October 16, 2022 at 3:30 PM

So that would make it even worse? I'd actually just argue their numbers are probably less correct.

PanAmargo t1_iskavkn wrote on October 16, 2022 at 5:03 PM

Murder rate is probably the best proxy in some regards for overall criminality, at least it’s a very high end, because it’s by far the hardest crime to cover up. As such in the global south murder rate is used as the de facto violent crime rate as other crimes are poorly reported and poorly counted.

RandomLogicThough t1_iskc37v wrote on October 16, 2022 at 5:11 PM

If Japan can skew their murder rate I'm sure plenty of stuff isn't reported in south America, lol.

PanAmargo t1_iskesnw wrote on October 16, 2022 at 5:28 PM

Nice nonsensical comeback + downvote 👍

RandomLogicThough t1_iskewdi wrote on October 16, 2022 at 5:29 PM

Nonsensical if you're ignorant of what I speak, rofl, and nope NOW is my downvote.